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As Disappointed As You Might Be With The GOP, What Is The Alternative?

Posted on 09/26/2005 5:34:31 PM PDT by mwfsu84

My major complaints with the GOP are Bush's spending, and the stonewalling RINOs in Congress. And yet, what is the alternative? To vote Democrat? Or to not vote at all - which is just as helpful to Dems.

Every time I think how disappointed I am with Bush, I try to remember how much worse it could be with a legitmate Bush-hater.

The Democrats won't cut spending. They'll raise taxes. We'll see national health care. A Democratic President won't nominate moderate SCOTUS justices - unless you consider Ruth Bader Ginsberg a moderate. We'll cow tow to the UN, probably pull out of Iraq, establish relations with Cuba and Hugo Chavez. They'll be no legitimate challenge to the ban on partial birth abortion. This fall, an upcoming SCOTUS case will be whether a minor has a right to have an abortion without parental consent. If a 15 year old child wins that 'right', do you honestly expect ANY leader from the party of Planned Parenthood to challenge it?

You think gas prices are high now? Wait until you see prices caps imposed, Jimmy Carter-style, so you'll have higher prices and longer lines. We'll have a president that preaches to us the value of sacrifice, which as we all know, worked so well during the Carter years.

As disgusted as we are with George W. Bush, we can't give up on the Republican Party.


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KEYWORDS: gop; govwatch; rinowatch; taxandspendrinos
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To: Hawk1976
If all I can do is vote for slow creeping socialism or voting to have it installed all at once, then what are my choices?

I myself am conflicted with the same thought. Sometimes I want to just vote with the "installed all at once" option so it'll collapse that much sooner. The American populace is easily fooled when things happen slowly and are stealthily inserted by the corrupt politicians.

21 posted on 09/26/2005 5:45:22 PM PDT by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties FLAWLESSLY, zero mistakes)
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To: mwfsu84
It's time to wake up the silent majority! Make them realize that things are not going to get better on their own!

Time to walk the walk, not just talk the talk!

22 posted on 09/26/2005 5:46:00 PM PDT by airborne (My hero - my nephew! Sean is home! Thank you God!)
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To: mwfsu84

My major complaint with W is that he thinks that government should play a major role in the ordering of a just society - that thought, unfortunately, is the foundation of socialism.

Other than that, I admire him personally as a straight shooter and a man determined (I think) to save the world from Islamic terror.

I'll continue to vote Republican, with misgivings, since the alternative is unthinkable.


23 posted on 09/26/2005 5:46:02 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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To: xrp

I'm afraid that this is like one of those mechanical problems; You know there is a problem ..

But because you are short of time and there are only two mechanics in town and they are both incompetent and crooked, you drive it until it breaks down completely....

And you just have to pray that you aren't driving down the freeway when the wheels fall off and you cause a mass collision with many deaths.


24 posted on 09/26/2005 5:46:19 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: mwfsu84

Put the democrats in charge and overthrow the government right before they try to implement collective farming.


25 posted on 09/26/2005 5:46:55 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: mwfsu84

My major complaints with the GOP are Bush's spending, and the stonewalling RINOs in Congress. And yet, what is the alternative?




Constitution Party


26 posted on 09/26/2005 5:47:25 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: Morgan in Denver
The president does not pass laws, congress does. Blaming Bush is unproductive.

No, Bush is partly to blame because in order for something to become law, Bush must sign it. To date, President Bush lifted the veto pen out of the ink well.

27 posted on 09/26/2005 5:47:52 PM PDT by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties FLAWLESSLY, zero mistakes)
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To: mwfsu84

Kill off the Lifers in the primary.
Force the change at the local level.


28 posted on 09/26/2005 5:48:06 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: mwfsu84
Question:"As Disappointed As You Might Be With The GOP, What Is The Alternative?"

Response: The idea stated above is also known as-"The Doctrine of Relative Filth!"

29 posted on 09/26/2005 5:48:11 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: mwfsu84

As disgusted as we are with George W. Bush, we can't give up on the Republican Party.




I didn't leave the Republican Party, the Republican party left me.


30 posted on 09/26/2005 5:49:29 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: mwfsu84

Time to give the constitution party a chance.


31 posted on 09/26/2005 5:49:33 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ((Aubrey, Tx) --- The government seems to be rewarding stupidity lately.)
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To: mwfsu84
I'm not disappointed with Bush. Between 9-11, Katrina, Rita, the bad hurricane season last year, and the other issues that have been dumped in his lap, I'm in awe of his courage and determination.

Are there things I disagree with Bush on? Absolutely. However, God put him in the White House at this time because he was the man who needed to be there as this country faced the multiple disasters that occurred through no fault of his.

32 posted on 09/26/2005 5:49:53 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: xrp

the PFOP-"pretty fair old party" ?


33 posted on 09/26/2005 5:50:07 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.)
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To: mwfsu84

Welcome to the real world.


34 posted on 09/26/2005 5:50:41 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: mwfsu84

Giving up on the GOP may not be an option, but neither is giving up on the conservative agenda. Bush&company have expanded the fedral bureaucarcy like no adminsitration since LBJ. Spending on welfare and entitlement programs are higher now then at anytime in US history. Fiscal conservatives should be standing up and denouncing such policy. Not accepting it as a show of status quo pragmatism. Conservatism is for a smaller, more limited govt. What we have now is big govt Republicanism. And on immigration reform what we have now, is no policy at all. Continued open borders and lax enforcement of exisiting immigration law does nothing to solve a serious problem that is not going away anytime soon.


35 posted on 09/26/2005 5:50:44 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("Mister President, members of Congress, complete the mission".)
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To: dts32041

The Whigs, after ail the where be replaced by the Republicans, have to start someplace.




What?


36 posted on 09/26/2005 5:51:19 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: mwfsu84

I've often wondered what would happen if all of us who are sick up and fed with with the current party, would get together and vote for one of those little crackpot parties that always seems to get on the ballot in all 50 states but never get more than a million votes, and we let it be known just before the election that we will be voting for the crackpots in protest. We wouldn't win but we would send a strong message if that crackpot party suddenly got tens of millions of votes. Then maybe the republican leadership would pay more attention to us.


37 posted on 09/26/2005 5:51:28 PM PDT by aomagrat (Let us read from the book of Ruger, chapter 3, verse 57.)
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To: LegendHasIt
And then there's the problem that the two mechanics will just squeeze out and stifle any competition.

How much damage does socialism (or what ever -ism they use today) before people realize that it doesn't work?
38 posted on 09/26/2005 5:51:51 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (DU, more toxic than New Orleans water.)
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To: Sam Cree

I'll continue to vote Republican, with misgivings, since the alternative is unthinkable.

My sentiments also. I think we have got a lot of Libertarians posting on this thread.


39 posted on 09/26/2005 5:52:36 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: xrp

Sorry, but yes. Bush is dealing with a bunch of Prima-donnas who all want their way. Bush can veto but it is up to congress to pass the laws. Bush has threatened vetos and congress has followed his wishes, but on other things Bush allows congress to prevail. I'm not a fan of Bush not doing more either, but that is still not where the problem is.


40 posted on 09/26/2005 5:52:45 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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