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Dispute over evolution goes on trial in U.S. court
Baltimore Sun ^ | September 26, 2005 | Arthur Hirsch

Posted on 09/26/2005 1:53:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

A Pennsylvania school district's use of "intelligent design" in its high school biology curriculum goes on trial in federal court today in the nation's first legal challenge to the idea, which contends that evolutionary theory alone does not explain how life on Earth took shape.

The lawsuit, brought by 11 parents in the Dover Area School District, attacks as unconstitutional the year-old policy of telling ninth-grade biology students that Charles Darwin's theory of evolution "is not a fact. Gaps in the Theory exist for which there is no evidence." School officials also recommend a book on intelligent design, or ID.

The plaintiffs, including the American Civil Liberties Union and Americans United for Separation of Church and State, argue that the policy -- which does not require students to study intelligent design -- serves religious, not secular ends, violating the First Amendment.

ID proponents say scientists can look at life forms and identify the work of a controlling "intelligence," although ID advocates are not specific about the nature of that force. While they do not reject all evolutionary theory, ID proponents argue that it incorrectly insists life took shape purely through a mindless process.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: allcrevoallthetime; anothercrevothread; crevolist; crevorepublic; education; enoughalready; evolution; id; lawsuit; religion; scienceeducation
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To: furball4paws

I'm a type O Rh+. I'm also a white Anglo-Saxon gentile, a heterosexual able-bodied right-handed endomorphic male, and a conservative capitalist evolutionist. I'm the ultimate oppressor :).


101 posted on 09/26/2005 9:06:05 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Bring back Modernman!)
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To: newguy357

The evos are so dedicated to their cause, they don't mind a little thing like the ACLU helping them out. After all, they obviously need all the help they can get. Students continue to believe creation over evolution.


102 posted on 09/26/2005 9:06:35 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: js1138
Some newspapers also carry science columns. Astrology is right up there with evolution.
103 posted on 09/26/2005 9:07:35 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: newguy357

It is unconstitutional for a state to force a teacher to teach religion in a science class. The Discovery Institute, which has been spearheading this effort, knows that this case is a loser and has refused to support the ID side.

If you want to know why DI backed out it is simple. They ar smart enough to know that intelligent design has to come up with some actual science befor it can be taught in a science classroom.

There's a lot of name calling going on, but the
Discovery Institute knows that ID hasn't produced any science yet. If and when it does, it will be taught.


104 posted on 09/26/2005 9:07:48 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138

If you have children in public school, you know ID/creationism is being taught along side evolution in many areas and many, many people don't seem to mind. Sad for you, isn't it?


105 posted on 09/26/2005 9:08:57 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: furball4paws

Oh, I didn't know humans only had one gene.


106 posted on 09/26/2005 9:09:42 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: furball4paws

And more amazing, at least to me, about 15 years ago 60% of high school students couldn't find the Pacific Ocean on a map.

Have you heard about the geography teacher who thought that Alaska was an island because it was shown on maps of the USA in the same way Hawaii is? I kid you not.

107 posted on 09/26/2005 9:10:04 AM PDT by ml1954
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To: Vaquero; mlc9852
You will be unsurprised to learn that mlc has been shown the evidence before, on a number of occasions. Creationist Tabula Rasa strikes again.
108 posted on 09/26/2005 9:14:08 AM PDT by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: RightWingAtheist
I'm a type O Rh+. I'm also a white Anglo-Saxon gentile, a heterosexual able-bodied right-handed endomorphic male, and a conservative capitalist evolutionist. I'm the ultimate oppressor :).

Good thing I'm A Rh+, or I'd suspect we were identical twins.

109 posted on 09/26/2005 9:15:50 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor (I'm a victim, you're a victim, he's a victim, she's a victim, wouldn't you like to be a victim too?)
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To: RightWingAtheist

You are disgusting. We need more of your kind. Go breed.


110 posted on 09/26/2005 9:17:52 AM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: Thatcherite

And like so many others, I don't believe we descended from anything other than other humans. You believe what you like about your ancestors as you are free to do. Why not allow the rest of us the same courtesy?


111 posted on 09/26/2005 9:20:03 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

You think God had a bag of genes and decided to toss a monkey gene into Adam just for a laugh?


112 posted on 09/26/2005 9:20:54 AM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: ml1954

I can believe that, although I don't like it.


113 posted on 09/26/2005 9:21:51 AM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: furball4paws

I think all living things are related and designed and created by God. What He specificaly chose to do with genes is anybody's guess.


114 posted on 09/26/2005 9:22:15 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

Thank you mlc, you make an excellent specimen-in-a-jar.


115 posted on 09/26/2005 9:24:46 AM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: mlc9852
Actually, I don't personally mind if teachers mention ID or creationism. I would mind if something that is not science is forced into science classrooms as a matter of policy.

And yes, my kids went to public schools. My son's middle school science teacher -- a graduate of a fine Christian college -- informed him that snakes do not have bones.

So yes, I'm aware that all kinds of nonsense is being taught. Nothing about this is particularly new. Back in the early 50s I had a teacher who never let a week go by without telling us that the only good Jap was a dead Jap.

Fortunately my kids got into good AP biology classes, sans creationism, and aced their AP exams.
116 posted on 09/26/2005 9:26:01 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: mlc9852

You are also free to believe what you will, outside of the Science classroom.


117 posted on 09/26/2005 9:26:30 AM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: furball4paws

But I would still be a human (despite what you think about me).


118 posted on 09/26/2005 9:28:38 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: furball4paws

Ah my friend - it isn't that simple. All subjects should be open for debate, don't you think? What are you afraid of?


119 posted on 09/26/2005 9:29:50 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: js1138

Both my daughters took honors biology in high school, got excellent grade, and STILL don't believe in evolution. But they learned what they had to in order to get the grades.


120 posted on 09/26/2005 9:30:53 AM PDT by mlc9852
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