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Full credit should go to Bush (for successful Rita response)
Toronto Sun ^ | September 25, 2005 | Bob MacDonald

Posted on 09/25/2005 9:55:48 PM PDT by bobsunshine

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To: kenth
I agree. However, we should give credit to TX Governor. At least he is not Blanco...
21 posted on 09/25/2005 11:01:58 PM PDT by alessandrofiaschi (Is Roberts really a conservative?)
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To: Mo1
Articles of praise are rare, very rare!!!

But yet I don't give President Bush the credit for Texas doing what was Texas's responsibility and planned for in a time of emergency (unless of course, President Bush as Governor, set the plan in motion).

That said, I still lay the blame on the Gov. of LA and Mayor of NO for not having a plan in action, a plan rehearsed many times, and for not responding to the personal calls from President Bush. Unless the leadership in LA was completely unqualified for their emergency, and that would have to go very deep, President Bush was being set up. Without a doubt I feel if President Bush had acted like he was blamed for not acting, we would be into impeachment hearing a week old.

Every state must have plans that have been practiced over and over. I have talked with HI Civil Defence and they, on invitation, travel all over sharing their experience. That's as it should be.

I remember Gov. Keating did a "what if practice emergency" and there were very interesting results from that drill.

All that said - I'm very proud of our President and I have all faith in his leadership.

22 posted on 09/25/2005 11:06:59 PM PDT by malia
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To: BigSkyFreeper
In the audit of computer systems, we have one rule about disaster recovery plans: "It isn't a plan until it's been tested."

You can work through some items (how can we use the buses if we wait too long and all the bus drivers have gone; who do we flush the toilets in the Superdome if the water/sewer service is gone?) during a table-top walk-through, but nothing points out weaknesses in the plan like an actual practice.

The point is that getting all those people out was a major test. Now the authorities have to apply lessons learned this time to the plan for next time. That's how it gets better.

23 posted on 09/25/2005 11:07:21 PM PDT by Bernard (The most dangerous religion in America is liberals who worship at the altar of big government.)
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To: Mo1

Really enjoyed the read; thanks so much for the ping.

It was a refreshing breath of air.


24 posted on 09/25/2005 11:35:02 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: alessandrofiaschi
I agree. However, we should give credit to TX Governor. At least he is not Blanco...,

That's a stronger endorsement than many Freepers will give to Govenor Perry. I'm not quite sure why there's so much antipathy to him Freepers and Texas Republicans. Some people hold the fact that he switched parties back in 1990 against him, but the Republican party would still be the minority party in the US Congress and in the Texas legislature were it not for conservative Democrats who switched to the Republican party. Rick Perry personally destroyed the political carreer of Jim Hightower when he beat him in his bid to be reelected to a third term as the Texas Agriculture Commssioner. It was well known that Hightower wanted to eventually run for a US Senate seat from Texas. I'm very glad he never had the opportunity.

25 posted on 09/26/2005 12:10:29 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Hightower is a populist in a broad sense. I think that Republicans should always maintain a "presidential" behavior. They would avoid to play on short term sentiments/fears, following more principled lines of action.


26 posted on 09/26/2005 12:35:24 AM PDT by alessandrofiaschi (Is Roberts really a conservative?)
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To: bobsunshine
Full credit should go to Bush

From a Canadianian paper, no less! I even followed the link!

27 posted on 09/26/2005 1:46:29 AM PDT by Watery Tart ("First, NO Mayor Ray Naga… Nogg… Nagg… Not gonna work here anymore, anyway!" ~~One of the Bobs)
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To: Spanaway Lori

"Remember the traffic jammed up on the highway getting out of Texas? THAT was Bush's fault. /sarc"

Actually NPR news was trying to hint at that this morning.


28 posted on 09/26/2005 2:51:31 AM PDT by whershey
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To: bobsunshine

As a person that lost TWO HOMES and ONE BUSINESS in Katrina, I can tell you that the President's and the Feds response to helping us here in Mississippi has been MAGNIFICENT! Any other conclusion is 100% BOVINE EXCREMENT!!!

I KNOW, as I SURVIVED that bitch Katrina!!!

LLS


29 posted on 09/26/2005 3:14:21 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: bobsunshine

Bumperoo


30 posted on 09/26/2005 3:18:31 AM PDT by roaddog727 (P=3/8 A. or, P=plenty...............)
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To: Lauretij2

"Seems a bit nuts to me. But, that's what the media has made Katrina into".

Have YOU stood amongst the rubble on Hwy 90 on the Gulf Coast? Have you walked the barren wasteland that was once the Mississippi State Port in Gulfport? Have you seen upclose 300 foot barges covering entire neighborhoods, or seen the slab that was once the Coast Guard Station? I have! If another storm of the magnitude of Katrina hits again, you had better evacuate. My friends that did not... are DEAD!

LLS


31 posted on 09/26/2005 3:20:01 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Lightning Joe

Any lefty comments for this thread LJ?


32 posted on 09/26/2005 3:24:10 AM PDT by ChefKeith ( If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking...)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Is that the cute little lady mayor with the husky voice? (Lyda?)

I was struck by how polite and friendly she was with all the news people who interviewed her.

She said things like, "Thanks for helping us get the message out with your show, and "Come and visit us when this is all over", etc.

Neat lady!


33 posted on 09/26/2005 6:46:42 AM PDT by bunches (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: bobsunshine
Good article, but the reality is, politicians are getting too much credit or blame either way.

Those who successfully evacuated, whether they needed to or not, did so because they saw had a recent, very grim, reminder, of what could happen if they didn't (not the social breakdown, but the deaths/problems from the flooding - I couldn't see a New Orleans-style social breakdown happening in Texas).

There is also the fact that the hurricane veered away from Houston - had it hit Houston head on, with God knows how many people trying to get out (the people who waited to see where it was going to hit, plus the people already stuck), people would be blaming President Bush, even though he has no control over it either way.

I think the credit needs to fully go to the people who took it upon themselves to evacuate, as well as the city managers/mayors, and the emergency response personnel who helped with the evacuation.

There is really only one case where any politician above the city level can be blamed for any problems, and that's not turning I-45 completly north a day sooner, or even 12 hours sooner.

The scary thing is, that's being overlooked by the media and others, is that a lot of people, the next time this happens, are not going to leave. They are going to think "Why should I spend 14+ hours on the road with the heat and gas problems, when I can probably ride anything out at home". Of course, the Governor, President, etc. are going to be blamed for that.
34 posted on 09/26/2005 7:48:20 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: bunches
Is that the cute little lady mayor with the husky voice? (Lyda?)

Lyda Ann Smith I think is her name, but yeah, she's the one. She's been outstanding, calm and reasoned from the word "go", unlike those public officials in LA who are driven by sheer emotion. I've noticed Blanco looks like she's about ready to blubber every time I see her, and Nagin has an expression of "cluelessness" written all over his face.

35 posted on 09/26/2005 11:56:42 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
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To: Watery Tart; McGavin999
The Toronto Sun is a conservative paper. When referred to by other Canadian MSM, it is obligatory to add "right-wing rag" immediately before or after the name.
36 posted on 09/26/2005 12:36:58 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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To: Spanaway Lori

President Bush did a great job but I will say that the local officials in Calcasieu and Cameron Parish deserve a lot of the credit. They are very competent and are excellent leaders. They knew exactly what to do and implimented the plan they had. They successfully evacuated for Hurricane Lili a couple years ago and they were on the ball for Rita. The problem with New Orleans was local leaders elected above their capabilities and corruption.

Our evacuation was hampered by Texas people getting out of the way (which is fine)and even though people have been complaining about the slow crawl of traffic here we did a damn good job of getting people out of the way. Louisiana has had ZERO deaths from Rita that is great considering the storm surge caught a lot of people off guard further east than forecast.






37 posted on 09/26/2005 3:03:45 PM PDT by CajunConservative (Lake Charles, LA)
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To: bobsunshine

Meanwhile, Bush forges ahead to do the right thing as he sees it. No matter what the critics say.

He knows that not everyone will be happy all the time with him, but he does what he thinks is best for everyone. I am glad he doesn't pick a certain group and kiss their ass just to keep the peace. He has spunk and I admire that.


38 posted on 09/26/2005 3:44:20 PM PDT by WasDougsLamb (Just my opinion.Go easy on me........)
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To: bobsunshine
PRESIDENTIAL FAILURE, 9/11 + KATRINA



39 posted on 09/27/2005 7:43:24 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Thanks, Good Work!


40 posted on 09/27/2005 8:21:41 AM PDT by bobsunshine
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