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GOP leaders propose military benefits cuts to pay for Katrina costs (shame on them!)
Navy vet email | 9/22/05

Posted on 09/22/2005 6:14:11 AM PDT by pabianice

A group of House Republicans have proposed a plan to offset the costs of relief and rebuilding after Hurricane Katrina that includes trimming military quality-of-life programs, including health care. Possible sources of funding cuts to free up money for Katrina relief include reduced health benefits, consolidation of the three military exchange systems and the closure of the military’s stateside school system.

The House Republican Study Committee, headed by Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., is not singling out the military as it tries to raise the estimated $200 billion that the federal government will need for various Katrina-related spending.

Their proposal includes freezing congressional pay, charging federal workers for parking and cutting back on legislative earmarking — items added to agency budgets by lawmakers — as ways of raising money.

They call their effort “Operation Offset,” and hope to get spending cuts considered before Congress approves any more money devoted to Katrina relief and recovery operations.

Their offset list includes three provisions aimed at military quality-of-life programs:

• Service members would be offered cash if they are willing to accept reduced health care benefits for their families. “The less comprehensive plan would encourage individuals to be more cost-conscious when purchasing health care products by including deductibles, co-payments and a maximum annual out-of-pocket expenditure limit,” according to a written explanation provided by the study group. Reduced health care benefits could save $2.4 billion over 10 years.

• The three separate military exchange systems could be consolidated, saving up to $1.9 billion over 10 years, the study group says. The Army and Air Force share an exchange system, AAFES, while the Navy and Marine Corps have their own systems. “Consolidating … would eliminate inefficiencies from duplicative purchasing, different personnel departments, warehouse and inventory systems and management headquarters while retaining the current ability for service embers and their families to receive a wide selection of goods at a low price,” the statement says.

The Pentagon has studied the idea of exchange consolidation for years but has been unable to overcome bureaucratic obstacles and opposition from some service officials and industry groups. Several studies of the issue also have raised questions about how much money would be saved.

• The stateside system of elementary and secondary schools for military family members could be closed, saving $788 million over 10 years, the study says.

“This provision would phase out these domestic schools over time and shift these military children into the local public school systems,” the study group says.

The Pentagon also has been studying this idea, but has faced strong opposition from parents of children attending the schools because public schools are seen as offering lower-quality education.

So far, the Bush administration has not endorsed any plan to pay for hurricane relief, although President Bush has suggested that reducing spending is one obvious option.

At the administration’s request, Congress already has approved $62 billion in Katrina spending by simply adding it to the national debt, because other money is not available and no offsets were approved as part of the legislation.

White House budget officials met Tuesday with Senate Republicans to talk about Katrina relief plans but provided no recommendations on possible offsetting cuts in other programs to cover costs, according to senators who attended the closed-door meetings.


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To: trubluolyguy

Read further. Links to both the Army and the Navy Times verify the story.


121 posted on 09/22/2005 10:15:14 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: marron
" The cash offered has to be less than the service they are forgoing, or there would be no cost savings."

In any system where someone else pays for the benefits there is a lot of unnecessary waste.

When people don't have any form of copay some will go the the emergency room for minor things. If they have to pay a copay, they go to urgent care, or make a doctor's appointment if it's not urgent.

If people have to pay a copay for prescription drugs, they often find that a cheaper, over the counter, medication suits their needs.

Even relatively small copay have been proven to make benefits plans much more affordable.
122 posted on 09/22/2005 10:16:50 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: pabianice

NO TO MILITARY BENEFITS CUTS!

Cut ALL welfare state programs. Cut NEA funding. Cut NPR funding. Do not fund any new, pseudo-moon missions. Make Congress subject to Social Security and eliminate Congressional pensions that pay them more than when they served. Cut all agricultural subsidies - these all go to Conagra, Tyson and the like.


123 posted on 09/22/2005 10:18:13 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: MizSterious

Thank you.


124 posted on 09/22/2005 10:18:54 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: Itzlzha

read the actual RSC proposal!


125 posted on 09/22/2005 11:55:50 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: trubluolyguy
There is a plan to cut NEA and DOE.THere is no PLAN to cut Military benefits,only to trim "fat" and offer CHOICE.You trust the vets to make their own choices don't you?
126 posted on 09/22/2005 11:58:26 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Gipper08

There is a plan to cut NEA and DOE.THere is no PLAN to cut Military benefits,only to trim "fat" and offer CHOICE.You trust the vets to make their own choices don't you?




Yes, yes I trust the vets. I don't truast a politician who is apparently looking to "trim the fat" on he backs of the military, when illegal aliens are still getting benefits they didn't earn. I wonder how much could be saved by cutting them of entirely and leaving the military and the vets (me included) alone.


127 posted on 09/22/2005 12:18:06 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: Howlin
So is this the same thing -- and why is he calling himself the "leader" of the "House Conservatives?"

Pence does a fine job of leading up the Republican Study Committee which is the conservative wing of the House. Who do you feel would be a better candidate for that title?

128 posted on 09/22/2005 1:22:52 PM PDT by jmc813 ("Small-government conservative" is a redundancy, and "compassionate conservative" is an oxymoron.)
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To: trubluolyguy
Is this the same Mike Pence that some on this web site have been trying to draft to run for POTUS? Well he doesn't get my support after this.

Please look at the proposal closely. This is completely VOLUNTARY. Any soldier who does not wish to change his health care will not have to.

129 posted on 09/22/2005 1:27:18 PM PDT by jmc813 ("Small-government conservative" is a redundancy, and "compassionate conservative" is an oxymoron.)
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To: jmc813

Please look at the proposal closely. This is completely VOLUNTARY. Any soldier who does not wish to change his health care will not have to.




Understood, however if not enough servicemembers go for it, where are the savings?


130 posted on 09/22/2005 2:38:17 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: pabianice
1. Slash the gold-plated medical and retirement system for legislators and senior executive executive branch appointees. 2 Eliminate all legislative and executive branch travel expenses. If they really have to go on this fact-finding boondoggle, they can do it at their own expense. One return flight per year per legislator. 3. To this list add all resonable suggestions from other FReepers.
131 posted on 09/22/2005 2:48:32 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: Itzlzha

Right on.

It is a sacrilege to call these Marxists Republicans.

There is over $1 TRILLION dollars in FY 2006 budgeted for "Human Resources", a fancy name for welfare and various social wealth transfer programs.

There is ZERO need to cut NASA, ZERO need to cut military programs or anything other than other social welfare programs.

For any Republican to suggest that we cut any program other than programs involved in social welfare is stating clearly they are as much RAT-like as typical RATs.

Do not allow your Republican officials to act like RATs. Take the money form other social programs! There is over $1 TRILLION to play with.


132 posted on 09/22/2005 3:16:36 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: investigateworld

Sorry - Kern county, Mojave is a squat town in it. My bad.


133 posted on 09/22/2005 3:31:48 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers; Borax Queen

LOL ,,,, Hey, it still beat out my hometown to be the terminus of the 20 Mule Team Borax runs.


134 posted on 09/22/2005 8:56:22 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: investigateworld

:)


135 posted on 09/22/2005 9:08:17 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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