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Gore Vidal: Lunacy Can Wither Him
War to Mobilize Democracy ^ | September 21, 2005 | Andrew L. Jaffee

Posted on 09/21/2005 2:15:07 PM PDT by forty_years

A headline on the UK’s Guardian today reads, “Age cannot wither him,” referring to Gore Vidal. The author, Emma Brockes, pays homage at the feet of Vidal, praising him as an “aristocrat, intellectual and prolific novelist, playwright, and essayist,” flattering “his ongoing radicalism,” and gleefully exclaiming that he “is as outspoken as ever.” But Vidal’s left-wing hubris and insanity does not completely escape the awe-struck Brockes… sort of.

Brockes interviewed Vidal at his “grand old palazzo” in Italy. She notes that Vidal just sold this palace for “£9.5m” ($17,173,147.00) so that he could move to another house he owns in Hollywood. This conspicuous wealth sounds like aristocracy. Oh, yes, the Guardian calls Vidal an “aristocrat” in the same article that describes his “radicalism.” Is Vidal redistributing his wealth to the poor? Sorry to sound cliché, but, “What would Jesus do?”

Brockes takes note:

It has always been hard to work out how much of Vidal's aloofness is genuine. He plays up to his image as the foremost American aristocrat, slow in speech, noble in gesture, with a confidence in his own opinion that derives as much from background - his grandfather was a senator, his father a founder of the airline TWA and he had a stepfather in common with Jackie Kennedy - as from expertise.

One has to wonder why Vidal is moving back to America – no less to the gleaming mansions of Hollywood:

With some pride, Vidal refers to himself as the neo-conservatives' "public enemy number one". His radicalism stretches across many issues, all of which come back to his basic proposition that there is no such thing as democracy in America. Neither, he says, is there freedom of the press nor political accountability and the last American election was rigged.

He offers a pathetic attempt at proving that, “the last American election was rigged:”

"Congressman John Conyers," he says, "Democrat for Michigan, went out to Ohio with a team of researchers examining the theft of votes on a huge scale. So Conyers made a report and published it. I wrote the preface. And I followed its lack of attention. Not one review of the congressman's book has been mentioned anywhere in the papers, or on television, not one. We are tightly censored and controlled and have been for decades."

Vidal must have been at his “grand old palazzo” during last year’s presidential elections, surveying the vote “rigging” from on aristocratic high. I was in Ohio. The Democrats made all sorts of noises, and had sent forth an army of lawyers into the state to investigate this “rigging.” The Dems quietly retreated from the Buckeye State precisely because they could find no evidence of any type of irregularities. On the other hand, the Defiance County, Ohio sheriff arrested a man on October 19, 2004 for filing 124 falsified voter registration forms "…in exchange for crack cocaine from a Toledo woman working on behalf of the NAACP’s voter registration drive." This was not widely reported, but documented nonetheless.

Dan Rather, the New York Times, the LA Times, etc., etc., would have certainly let us know if anything done by Republicans was found. Oh, but Vidal has an answer for everything:

Brockes helps Vidal first:

He may well be right about the malevolence of corporate America.

Then she leads us to “understand,” while taking pause at Vidal’s madness:

But like most conspiracy theorists, Vidal's beliefs are so grand - for example, that the New York Times, General Electric and the nuclear industry are in cahoots to hoodwink the American people - that they rely on a rather optimistic view of human competence. When Clinton faced impeachment, Vidal said that Monica Lewinsky was a plant introduced to the White House by the tobacco industry to bring the president down.

With such “answers,” Vidal can back himself into any type of theoretical corner – and still claim that he is “right.”

What is so frightening about Vidal is that droves of left-wingers believe his drivel. Conspiracy theories are fun to believe precisely because they are almost impossible to prove or disprove; just like watching the X-Files. It is a fantasy world that suits a particular personality type.

Unfortunately, this personality type is one of limited mentality. Not to say that there are no smart left-wingers, like Christopher Hitchens, but he is the exception rather than the rule. The Left has devolved into a cesspool of conspiracy theories.

How can one lose an argument if that argument cannot be proved or disproved? How safe it is to know something for sure without having to think about it. “It is true because Gore Vidal and Noam Chomsky said so.” Never mind that the two old codgers are lunatics. It suits the left-wing belief system so the acolytes believe it. It fits the simple-minded mentality to have one person, place, or thing to focus all mental energies upon – President Bush, in this case. Need Vidal's views on Bush be repeated here ("It's a corrupt administration -- as they have proven to the whole world.")?

Instead of being unified against Islamism, almost half the country is concentrated on hating President Bush, and has its collective head in the sand either rationalizing terrorism or pretending it does not exist.

The obsessive hatred of Bush is a pathological avoidance mechanism. Since the "opposition" to the war against Islamism is terrified of terrorists, it channels its fear into hatred for the president.

The Left somehow sees the war against Islamo-fascism as an extension of the civil rights movement; as some type of black (e.g., Muslims) against white (e.g., the West) conflict; the usual “rich vs. poor” story.

Since "liberals" like Vidal feel guilty about living their comfortable lives, cannot stand to bear the sight of the poor or oppressed, they lash out in all sorts of strange ways at the society in which they live so comfortably.

The "opposition" knows deep down that Islamism is a threat to the very fabric of civilization. But its fear of doing the right thing causes intense emotional conflict. In other words, the appeasers know they should act, but are afraid to, so they suppress the desire to act. The repressed feelings must be expressed though, so they are flung in Bush's direction. This avoidance will lead to the destruction of civilization, if its proponents prevail.

The only saving grace to all this simplemindedness is the fact that a majority of American voters are not so simpleminded. They elected a Republican congress and president. Hopefully, they will do so one or two more times.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; conyers; duhio; gore; gorevidal; hubris; johnconyers; left; lunacy; ohio; ohioelection; theory; vidal; wing
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To: RedMonqey

They were both great in their prime. Highly articulate, well educated, and with a firm grasp of history. Television has reduced political debate to the level of professional wrestling.


21 posted on 09/21/2005 2:51:45 PM PDT by durasell
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To: RichInOC

"Gore Vidal is a senile old queen."

Darn, you beat me to it. Gore is a bloated, senile, pontificating gas bag. Gore has NEVER EVER been i touch with main stream America. He's the epitome of a haughty silver spooned prancing imperialist prig.
I remember watching old footage in a documentary. Gore was a little boy being interviewed along with his wealthy parents. You could tell his mother raised him to be an effeminent little "princess".

Momma's, don't raise your babies(boys) to be cow girls.


22 posted on 09/21/2005 2:54:25 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: durasell
They were both great in their prime. Highly articulate, well educated, and with a firm grasp of history. Television has reduced political debate to the level of professional wrestling.

Except current political debate still hasn't broken kayfabe.

23 posted on 09/21/2005 2:54:27 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (If we can't "legislate morality," why is murder against the law?)
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To: durasell

Yeah. Thanks to CNN and Paul Begola and Trash can Carville. Ugggh!


24 posted on 09/21/2005 2:55:51 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: Zionist Conspirator

To my knowledge neither has professional wrestling.

Political debate has reached the point of insanity. It's either singleton loud mouths pandering to a semi-literate audience or two loud mouths whose skills wouldn't land them a spot on a high school debating team.


25 posted on 09/21/2005 2:59:51 PM PDT by durasell
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To: SF Republican

> He did write some pretty decent history/novel; I thought Lincoln was a interesting portrait.

There are worse writers. Burr and Creation were entertaining, but after you've read a few, you've read them all. You know that expat homo malcontent is 80 now. He's moving to Hollywood to enjoy what sycophantism is left for him in his last years.


26 posted on 09/21/2005 3:00:35 PM PDT by cloud8
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To: forty_years
>It has always been hard to work out how much of Vidal's aloofness is genuine. He plays up to his image as the foremost American aristocrat

I once wrote to him
to disagree with something,
and he replied [!] with

a pleasant, chatty,
thoughtful hand written reply.
He's strange, but he's nice.

27 posted on 09/21/2005 3:03:43 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: cloud8
There are worse writers. Burr and Creation were entertaining, but after you've read a few, you've read them all. You know that expat homo malcontent is 80 now. He's moving to Hollywood to enjoy what sycophantism is left for him in his last years.

Interestingly, while "gay"-dom and the litterati are traditionally leftwing, there is the example of Tennessee Williams (who was both) but who, so far as I know, was not terribly political, at least publicly. How does one explain that?

28 posted on 09/21/2005 3:07:45 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (If we can't "legislate morality," why is murder against the law?)
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To: forty_years

Vidal: "Pinky! Are you pondering what I am pondering?"

Chomsky: "I think so Brain, but where do we get enough suspenders and bras, for *all* the Democrats?"


29 posted on 09/21/2005 3:13:19 PM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: forty_years

30 posted on 09/21/2005 3:16:16 PM PDT by UnklGene
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To: UnklGene
"We have made enemies of 1 billion muslims."

But what about their "tribal sky gxd?"

So, since Vidal is with Buchanan on this issue, is he going to help him chase the Mexicans out of the country?

31 posted on 09/21/2005 3:21:52 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (If we can't "legislate morality," why is murder against the law?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

"I'll ask it again: why don't people like this ever criticize Black Fundamentalists? And why don't they ever criticize people like him?"

The second question is the one that has always baffled me. I really don't see how so many blacks can form assocations with dirtbags like this.


32 posted on 09/21/2005 3:42:35 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: CheyennePress
The second question is the one that has always baffled me. I really don't see how so many blacks can form assocations with dirtbags like this.

The National Baptist Convention USA, Inc. (the largest Black Baptist organization in America) is partnering with the NAACP and MoveOn.org to provide relief to New Orleans.

There are also quotations from a sermon on their web site that mixes the story of Noah with "global warming" and Jesse Jackson. Go figure.

I'll never understand it. Never in a million years.

33 posted on 09/21/2005 4:03:39 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (If we can't "legislate morality," why is murder against the law?)
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To: forty_years; durasell; RedMonqey
If you are interested in the Buckley-Vidal "debates" from 1968 you can find clips here (including the "crypto-nazi" exchange):

Buckley-Vidal Debate, 1968

34 posted on 09/21/2005 4:31:56 PM PDT by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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To: Zionist Conspirator

"Meanwhile, midwestern dirt poor whites who hate the rich, bankers, etc., are attacked as dangerously incipient fascist "rightwing regresso populists" who won't rest until they've hanged every Jew to a lamppost and replaced Federal Reserve notes with Monopoly money.

See? It's not class it all. It's almost an incarnation of a metaphysical concept with "the other" = "the holy" (haqadosh)."

Food for thought. Like why middle class southerners are despised as reactionaries while selfish, rich West and East Coast libs are touted as examples of social responsibility. Altogether, very well written.


35 posted on 09/21/2005 5:28:17 PM PDT by tanuki
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To: Zionist Conspirator

> ...Tennessee Williams [a traditionally leftwing "gay" writer...] who, so far as I know, was not terribly political, at least publicly. How does one explain that?

Yes, and think of all those commies "persecuted" by the HUAC. Vidal has this aristocratic leftwing homo vision of himself, which has no place in this country, so he had to go into exile in Rome. Williams was free to be himself and practice his art in New Orleans, a place with exceptions to the rules. Vidal's princess persona would have had too much competition there.


36 posted on 09/21/2005 5:43:00 PM PDT by cloud8
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To: UnklGene

Gore Vidal should also be thinking,

"I don't see us(queers) winning the sexual orientation war, we've made enemies of billions of hetero (soccer moms) women and breeders world wide."


37 posted on 09/21/2005 7:03:37 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: fat city

Thanks, will do....


38 posted on 09/21/2005 10:02:58 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: Zionist Conspirator
At the risk of being not only misunderstood but of whipping a dead horse back to life, I'll ask it again: why don't people like this ever criticize Black Fundamentalists?

Because the effete white elitists see "black fundamentalists" as charming tribal primitives performing folk art.

It's always amazed me how left-wing audiences will readily accept Christian music, e.g., if it is perceived as "folk music". Gospel, for example, gets enthusiastic applause from the Prairie Home Companion audience, while they would throw tomatoes at a preacher saying the same words.

39 posted on 09/21/2005 10:21:21 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
>There are also quotations from a sermon on their web site that mixes the story of Noah with "global warming" and Jesse Jackson. Go figure. I'll never understand it. Never in a million years.

The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity

40 posted on 09/22/2005 7:07:10 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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