...the dust of the ground.. (All created by God.)
Note that it was the "dust" that was "created", and that man was "formed" (a process that occurs across time).
Posted on 09/20/2005 5:35:52 PM PDT by curiosity
Most adult Sunday school classes don't raise eyebrows, but my church is planning to hold one that's sure to. It's called "Evolution for Christians," and it will be taught this winter by David Bush, a member of the church I lead, Fairfax Presbyterian. David is an articulate government retiree who has been interested in this topic for nearly two decades, teaches a class on theories of the origins of life every five years or so, and once again has really done his homework. His view is that science and religion answer two different sets of questions about creation, with science answering the "how" questions, and religion answering the "why" ones. "With a little bit of wisdom and tolerance on each side," he tells me, "I think they can complement rather than contradict each other."
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Why not?
Becaus it keeps you on your toes.
You believe God is subject to (not sovereign over) the laws of nature, the laws He created? I literally shudder to consider what it would be like to have such a weak, small view of my Creator, the Almighty.
"Myth"? "Fantasy"? "Cult"? If nothing else, you've made it abundantly clear that there is no point in our discussing this any further.
So, I hope to someday meet you in glory, where we'll both see God's truth face to face. Until then, may God our Creator richly bless you and yours. He is able, even if you will not believe it.
"The text you question was written by newgeezer."
sorry.
Secondly, if their was never a Fall, then their is no need of a Savior."
I confess puzzlement at this statement...
"If we are only getting better all the time, all we have to do is wait. None of that messy Cross or Salvation stuff is needed."
I found the problem. Evolution does not say we are "getting better" (or, for that matter, that we are "getting worse"). It says nothing at all about Man's relationship to God.
So God hangs around for a couple hundred million years and looks down and says, "What took you so long???"...
Then, you see, Jesus didn't have to die as a sacrifice...We are getting better...All God has to do is wait another hundred thousand years or so, and we will have overcome any imperfection...
Likely God got bored from the long wait and went on to other projects...
Some of you people educated yourselves right out of the Bible...If Genesis isn't true, then what is??? Is Matthhew true??? Or Romans, or Galations, or Exodus???
Amo 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:
Amo 8:12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.
Is this portion of the Bible false also???
The fact that you are a molecular biologist is not in and of itself impressive, since it means you have been drinking to kool-aid all along.
Biochemists such as Michael Behe and other scientists would disagree with you.
It would be a transition within phylum Chordata at the level of "class."
"So God hangs around for a couple hundred million years and looks down and says, "What took you so long???"..."
No, He just works on a timescale that us mere mortals cannot begin to comprehend.
...the dust of the ground.. (All created by God.)
Note that it was the "dust" that was "created", and that man was "formed" (a process that occurs across time).
The same way I explain the evidence for Adam appearing to be a full-grown adult when he was one day old.
"You believe God is subject to (not sovereign over) the laws of nature, the laws He created?"
Just out of curiousity...
Do you believe God is the author of Truth?
Steriods?
God is outside time.
Then, you see, Jesus didn't have to die as a sacrifice...We are getting better...All God has to do is wait another hundred thousand years or so, and we will have overcome any imperfection...
I don't follow your argument. Jesus had to die because of our sins. Evolution isn't going to make sin go away.
Some of you people educated yourselves right out of the Bible...If Genesis isn't true, then what is??? Is Matthhew true??? Or Romans, or Galations, or Exodus???
It's all true. Your interpretation of some of it, though, is not.
Not all of scripture is meant to be taken literally.
Of course.
I can't wait to see where this is going.
"Of course.
"I can't wait to see where this is going."
OK. So God, by definition, cannot lie, correct?
As I suspected: a "yomist "-- who won't (or can't) comprehend the facts of relativity.
Science and religion cannot teach two different things. They are concerned with different areas which only partially overlap, but they cannot contradict one another.
There is only one real world out there. To speak disparagingly of any effort to relate science and religion as "hybrid" is foolish. So too is the impression he gives that we should think about things one way in church and another way outside of church.
I'm not sure his chosen metaphor isn't a bit racist, too! What's wrong with hybrids?
"What's wrong with hybrids?"
Nothing--I'm looking at buying a Prius.
Oops, my bad (c8
Behe accepts we evolved from single-celled organisms
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