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NY Times Cutting 500 Jobs, 4 Percent Of Work Force
WNBC in New York ^ | 9/20/05 | The Associated Press.

Posted on 09/20/2005 2:19:20 PM PDT by Sprite518

NEW YORK -- The New York Times Co. said Tuesday it would cut 500 jobs, or about 4 percent of its work force, as part of an ongoing effort to reduce costs. The reductions come atop another 200 jobs that were cut earlier this year.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: layoffs; liberalmedia; newspapers; nyt
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To: Sprite518
I wonder how many gays they laid.

Off.
81 posted on 09/20/2005 4:00:18 PM PDT by Bars4Bill
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To: stocksthatgoup
"Yeah, I told you there was  A CLIMATE OF FEAR in the newsroom." 
                                                                    Dan Rather

82 posted on 09/20/2005 4:03:05 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Sprite518
includes The Boston Globe

Continued fallout from the Red Sox victory in the World Series.

83 posted on 09/20/2005 4:05:52 PM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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To: Sprite518

All is not well at Dow Jones, which owns WSJ, because tech/financial ad revenue declined.

Last week:

"Dow Jones Leads Newspaper Stocks Lower"
Tuesday September 13, [2005] 2:49 pm ET
Dow Jones Leads Newspaper Stocks Lower As UBS Downgrades the Company on Valuation Concerns

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050913/dow_jones_stock.html?.v=1

Last month, word got out that some members of the Bancroft family wanted to sell:

"Dow Jones soars on stake sale talk"

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9071-1736504,00.html


84 posted on 09/20/2005 4:13:46 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: Sprite518
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Now just go out of business please, Pinch ...

85 posted on 09/20/2005 4:17:42 PM PDT by Babu
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To: Sprite518
ROTFLOL ~LOL~ blame it on the Internet! They don't get it -- people have turned to the Internet because these papers are so disingenuous no one wants to read them -- or watch -- or hear -- about Dan Blather, either!
86 posted on 09/20/2005 4:27:19 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Sprite518
It couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people.
87 posted on 09/20/2005 5:09:54 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Sprite518

Trendlines don't look good for mainstream media:

credibility, subscriptions, jobs down.

Blogs, electronic forums, email, Internet skyrocketing.

And they think they're coming after us -- and the President.

What was their name again?


88 posted on 09/20/2005 5:25:12 PM PDT by MikeHu
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To: okie01

Well .. they think they're right!


89 posted on 09/20/2005 7:54:34 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: Sprite518

Schade!!


90 posted on 09/20/2005 8:14:11 PM PDT by syriacus (Galloway blusters w/ such a "cute" accent. Did Germans think Hitler's Austrian accent was cute?)
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To: Norman Conquest
"Personally, I find the Times scratchy and not absorbent enough. Even after repeated applications, I never feel really clean "down there."

LOL

In that case I'd recommend the L.A. Times. They say it's more absorbent and the print won't come off on your hands.

91 posted on 09/20/2005 10:17:07 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: Sprite518

92 posted on 09/21/2005 12:21:45 AM PDT by alessandrofiaschi (Is Roberts really a conservative?)
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To: Sprite518

***.....Newspaper companies have been struggling with slow-growing advertising and a long-term decline in circulation amid changing media habits as more people go to the Internet for news...........***

Bump!


93 posted on 09/21/2005 2:39:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Funny, no mention of the brand new edifice that the Slime is building for itself (with a little Eminent Domain help from the city).


94 posted on 09/21/2005 5:32:38 PM PDT by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: FrankR; Landru; ForGod'sSake; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Copernicus; Mr. Mulliner; thesummerwind; ...
.....Atlas is shrugging, as jobs move overseas, Americans have less and less disposable income, which makes merchants and businesses tighten up and they scuttle things like "ADVERTISING" - NYT's bread and butter........

I had been led to believe that loss of circulation was the reason add revenues were off. The numbers show a circulation decline since 2002 that might be the reason .New numbers will be available for the 6 months ending in September and they might show a more precipitous rate of decline.

The link is here.

One wonders what was the cause for the decline in circulation. Jason blair was undoubtedly part of the problem. It seems the decline started before his May 2003 outing. While overall circulation has been in decline, "other" circulation has risen. One wonders if "other" circulation is anything like Enron earnings. Perhaps Sarbanes Oxley snared the old gray whore.

95 posted on 09/25/2005 8:11:51 AM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . I smell a dead rat in Baton Rouge!)
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To: jmstein7

NY'er bump


96 posted on 09/25/2005 8:13:03 AM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . I smell a dead rat in Baton Rouge!)
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To: bert
... which makes merchants and businesses tighten up and they scuttle things like "ADVERTISING" - NYT's bread and butter........

Companies advertise to increase their bottom line not because they feel "guilty". No one was doing the NYT's a favor by advertising, they were doing business. Their ads produced customers. In hard times customers become more important, not less important. But businesses want bang for their buck and that's the problem.

The ads in the NYT's and other liberal MSM newspapers are not bringing in customers. In hard times you need more customers.

Why aren't the ads working? First, the demographics are off - newspapers are appealing to fewer and fewer people. Their readers of mostly "of habit" types. People who think breakfast always includes a cup of coffee and a paper. I'm one of those people. But every month I read less and less of the newspaper, and that means I see fewer and fewer ads. And young people? They're worse.

Here's the uncomfortable part: many newspapers read like in-house memos. The feeling is the writers write for each other and have no connection with us. No connection to anyone outside their limited liberal elite world. And that won't sell papers. Or ads.

So, to you newsmen and women, would you like to read a paper put out by plumbers who were basically only interested in plumbing and sometimes an article or two on building codes? Or a paper put out by the military that never dealt with your issues? The truth? Newspapers are boring. Inbred, incestuous, and boring. It's the Stepford writers. All the same. Everyday. In lockstep. Boring.

Not worth the price - even when the price is a dime or two.

And young people coming up are more complex than a liberal's idea of what a young person is. And if they don't read the paper, they don't look at what's on at the movies, and the movies will quit advertising. And that's now it works. You lose a demographic and you lose the people in that group who support that advertiser, then you lose that advertiser.

97 posted on 09/25/2005 9:10:42 AM PDT by GOPJ (When incentives are switched, patterns change. Until then, it's same old, same old.)
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To: FrankR; Landru; ForGod'sSake; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Copernicus; Mr. Mulliner; thesummerwind
... which makes merchants and businesses tighten up and they scuttle things like "ADVERTISING" - NYT's bread and butter........

Companies advertise to increase their bottom line not because they feel "guilty". No one was doing the NYT's a favor by advertising, they were doing business. Their ads produced customers. In hard times customers become more important, not less important. But businesses want bang for their buck and that's the problem.

The ads in the NYT's and other liberal MSM newspapers are not bringing in customers. In hard times you need more customers.

Why aren't the ads working? First, the demographics are off - newspapers are appealing to fewer and fewer people. Their readers of mostly "of habit" types. People who think breakfast always includes a cup of coffee and a paper. I'm one of those people. But every month I read less and less of the newspaper, and that means I see fewer and fewer ads. And young people? They're worse.

Here's the uncomfortable part: many newspapers read like in-house memos. The feeling is the writers write for each other and have no connection with us. No connection to anyone outside their limited liberal elite world. And that won't sell papers. Or ads.

So, to you newsmen and women, would you like to read a paper put out by plumbers who were basically only interested in plumbing and sometimes an article or two on building codes? Or a paper put out by the military that never dealt with your issues? The truth? Newspapers are boring. Inbred, incestuous, and boring. It's the Stepford writers. All the same. Everyday. In lockstep. Boring.

Not worth the price - even when the price is a dime or two.

And young people coming up are more complex than a liberal's idea of what a young person is. And if they don't read the paper, they don't look at what's on at the movies, and the movies will quit advertising. And that's now it works. You lose a demographic and you lose the people in that group who support that advertiser, then you lose that advertiser.

98 posted on 09/25/2005 9:11:41 AM PDT by GOPJ (When incentives are switched, patterns change. Until then, it's same old, same old.)
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To: GOPJ

..In hard times you need more customers...

I made the post to get a feel for loss of circulation and advertising. You made two references to hard times. There were no hard times across the country during this period.


.....And young people coming up are more complex than a liberal's idea of what a young person is......

This seems to be getting to the root of the matter. Young people don't read newspapers. In my neighborhood news paper subscribers can be identified by the yellow plastic box on their mail box. Only one "less than 35" family on the block gets the paper.

.....You lose a demographic and you lose the people in that group who support that advertiser, then you lose that advertiser.....

The conclusion is that a 5% drop in the New York Times circulation accompanied by some unknown but important decline in ad revenue is because old readers have died or because there is no appeal to produce young subscribers.

It's NOW's fault. By encouraging young women not to marry, the New York Times is going to fail.


99 posted on 09/25/2005 10:16:47 AM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . I smell a dead rat in Baton Rouge!)
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To: bert

Is Macy's going to advertise their "junior" clothes in the Times when the average woman reader is over 35? NO. Is Hollywood going to advertise in a large way when the average movie goer is under 30 and the average NYT"s reader is over 40? NO. Is the local Walmart going to advertise when the MSM hates Walmart? NO. Are conservatives going to buy the paper when they're insulted daily? NO. Are people who market goods to conservative families going to advertise in the Times? NO. The above groups still advertise in the NYT's - but soon they'll find better ways to connect to their customers. And then? Then it will be over...


100 posted on 09/25/2005 11:17:27 AM PDT by GOPJ (When incentives are switched, patterns change. Until then, it's same old, same old.)
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