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Offending Starbucks cups yanked at Baylor
Waco Tribune-Herald ^ | 09/20/2005 | Mike Anderson and Cindy V. Culp

Posted on 09/20/2005 6:41:34 AM PDT by ValerieUSA

Coffee cups featuring a quote by a gay author about growing up homosexual have been pulled from Baylor University's on-campus Starbucks.

Aramark, which as the contractor for Baylor dining services oversees the coffee outlet, pulled cups from the campus store earlier this month after a university staff member sent out an e-mail complaining about the appropriateness of the quote at a Baptist university, Baylor officials said.

The e-mail was sent on to Baylor dining services, which consulted with Starbucks' district office, which said it fully supported a decision to take the cup out of circulation to avoid offending others, Baylor officials said Monday.

“My understanding is it was a decision made by Baylor dining services staff, and I've not yet been able to trace it back to any Baylor administrators telling them point-blank to pull the cup,” Baylor spokesman Larry Brumley said.

He added, “I think they were trying to be sensitive. Obviously, Baylor is a Baptist-affiliated institution, and Baptists as a denomination have been pretty outspoken on the record about the denomination's views about the homosexual lifestyle.”

The action was spurred by the fact that some of the store's coffee cups contained a quote from novelist Armistead Maupin. He is best known for a six-book series titled Tales of the City, which is about life in San Francisco in the 1970s and 1980s.

The quote on the cup reads:

“My only regret about being gay is that I repressed it for so long. I surrendered my youth to the people I feared when I could have been out there loving someone. Don't make that mistake yourself. Life's too damn short.”

The cup is No. 43 in a series of cups being used chainwide by the Seattle-based coffee giant. The cups are part of a campaign called “The Way I See It,” which features quotes from a variety of notable figures. They range from the musings of electronic musician Moby to the thoughts of figure skater Michelle Kwan.

Sanja Gould, a spokeswoman with Starbucks' corporate office, said the company sees the program “as an extension of the coffeehouse culture – a way to promote open, respectful conversation among a wide variety of individuals.”

Gould said cups with the Maupin quote has been in circulation since July. She said the cups were placed randomly in the cases shipped to the store, and store employees would have to remove the cups manually.

“As far as I know, there weren't many of the cups,” Gould said.

Officials at other Waco-area Starbucks said they are still using the cups.

Linda Ricks, marketing program manager for Baylor Dining Services, said she could not comment on the cups, and referred calls to Aramark's corporate offices, which could not be reached for comment Monday.

At least one other group has expressed its dissatisfaction with the Maupin cup.

Concerned Women for America, a national Christian women's organization, says Starbucks is promoting a homosexual agenda with the cup. The group also has expressed concern about the campaign as a whole, saying most of the quotes are liberal, according to a report in the Seattle Times.

Members of the local gay community said they are disappointed by the cups' removal.

Cade Hammond, president of the board of directors for the Gay and Lesbian Alliance of Central Texas, said he sees pulling the cups as unnecessarily restrictive. He said the situation reminds him of people who burn books because they don't like what they say.

“You can't restrict information like that,” Hammond said. “It just seems a little backwards.”

Valerie Fallas, president of the Waco chapter of Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays, called the action “unnecessary.”

“It's a shame that anybody would do this,” Fallas said. “Whatever you feel, whatever you think about something, discussion is the number one thing to do to educate yourself on an issue.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: baptist; cafe; campus; coffee; coffeehouse; gay; gaycoffee; homosexualagenda; maupin; quotes; starbucks; university; waco
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To: ValerieUSA

81 posted on 09/20/2005 8:25:25 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: SweetCaroline

Just in case
CLARIFICATION:
I am NOT Valerie Fallas


82 posted on 09/20/2005 8:28:51 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Cowboy Bob
"... Michelle Kwan? What does she have to offer...advice on how to CHOKE in the Olympics?"

Probably something about doing precisely the same routine over and over for years as if it were something new and expecting the world to give you the highest award for ingenuity.

83 posted on 09/20/2005 8:28:53 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Isn't it tragic that here in the United States, students can still CHOOSE to attend a private religious university with specific standards rather than an anything-goes public institution?


84 posted on 09/20/2005 8:31:14 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Baylor is a private Christian college.


85 posted on 09/20/2005 8:33:23 AM PDT by CajunConservative ("Dem's can bus people to the polls but can't bus them out of danger to save their lives.")
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To: em2vn

This is the date that the local Waco newspaper carried the story.


86 posted on 09/20/2005 8:34:31 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

oh yes, I know that! LOL


87 posted on 09/20/2005 8:37:53 AM PDT by SweetCaroline (Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted!!)
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To: CajunConservative

And that is a good reason to think that keeping this particular cup from the hands of the students is a desirable thing?

I'm sorry, I'm not a big fan of this type of restriction, these kids see messages like that every day, and it would be far better for the college to educate the students as to how to recognise invalid or useless statements, than it is to simply pretend you can keep them from hearing them.

It wasn't a question of what the college was allowed to do, I was saying that this was not the right way to handle the issue.

BTW, it doesn't help those who want to argue that the words "Under God" in the pledge should remain because they are just words and people who are offended by them should tolerate the rest of us.


88 posted on 09/20/2005 8:42:55 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SquirrelKing
I'll have a double grande pumpkin-spice, skim latte - hold the gay.

Geeze, do you live near me? I heard that one day at our local Starbucks. Pumpkin-spice lattes.. MMmmm.

As to the quotes on the cups, I get one of the sleeves to keep from burning my hand, so I don't see the quotes without going out of my way.
89 posted on 09/20/2005 8:43:02 AM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: YourAdHere

"What dessert did Burger King pull? I hadn't heard about this."

Related thread here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1487030/posts


90 posted on 09/20/2005 8:45:32 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: kingu
Geeze, do you live near me? I heard that one day at our local Starbucks. Pumpkin-spice lattes.. MMmmm.

As to the quotes on the cups, I get one of the sleeves to keep from burning my hand, so I don't see the quotes without going out of my way.

Pumpkin spice lattes rock! Starbucks is like the Borg, though. they receive a corporate directive to run seasonal specials and even coffee of the day. All those around me are running with French roast this week. Bleh.

91 posted on 09/20/2005 8:49:58 AM PDT by SquirrelKing (I'm not mean, you're just a sissy.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

They can see those messages off campus. It wasn't the school that made the decision but the dining services contractors. They made the decision simply on the reality of who pays the bills. It was a free market decision on their part.

Sometimes it's nice to go somewhere where you can get away from the constant crap thrown back in your face. Since this is a private Christian school they don't have to allow a pro gay agenda company if they don't want to. That is the beauty of not attending a public state university.


92 posted on 09/20/2005 8:52:58 AM PDT by CajunConservative ("Dem's can bus people to the polls but can't bus them out of danger to save their lives.")
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To: WIladyconservative
I prefer the pumpkin spice to all the later seasonal stuff. Even gingerbread. My wife orders hers with soy and she says it makes it smoother.

I usually just order coffee of the day. Straight.

93 posted on 09/20/2005 8:53:18 AM PDT by SquirrelKing (I'm not mean, you're just a sissy.)
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To: HostileTerritory

I'm sure I've seen one of those G.O.D. trucks within the last few months. Not as common as they used to be though.


94 posted on 09/20/2005 9:39:34 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: YourAdHere

There was a thread on this a few days ago.


95 posted on 09/20/2005 9:40:48 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: CajunConservative
That's right. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY DO IN PRIVATE! Why can't they just shut up and get on with the business of living. If they don't want to be picked on, quit bothering everybody about it and trying to make us accept and condone it. They shouldn't start a fight and be surprised when someone obliges them.
96 posted on 09/20/2005 9:49:59 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ValerieUSA

"Philosophy.....is the talk on a cereal box [coffee cup.]"


97 posted on 09/20/2005 9:51:37 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

It's PRIVATE University. They can do what they want...AND I'm proud to say that I'm a former Baylor Bear that agrees with this decision.


99 posted on 09/20/2005 10:03:11 AM PDT by N8VTXNinWV
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To: UlmoLordOfWaters

Glad to hear that Medved is included. Then again, even NPR has one conservative commentator. I'd still be willing to bet that liberals outweigh conservatives mightily among the coffee cup philosophers.


100 posted on 09/20/2005 10:13:44 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today Show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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