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I've been saying it for years and years and years, there's no major differences between the republican party and the democratic party. Oh there's little differences here and there,. The demo's might have a different way to expand government than the repub's, but they both are expanding government They BOTH keep saying our(?) democracy this our democracy that. They both keep FDR's socialistic programs going and expanding. Neither has done anything to return this Country to a Constitutional representative republic.

The heck with constantly electing the lesser of two evils. The lesser of two evils. is STILL evil. Its like trying to choose between Hitler or Stalin.

Elect statesmen, not politicians.

Constitution Party

1 posted on 09/19/2005 8:10:33 AM PDT by Mikey
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Excellent column. Vox Day is truly one of the last spokesmen for conservatism out there. It amazes me how quickly others are willing to jump on the leftist bandwagon just because their president is so willing to betray those who put him in power. I'm with the poster of this column. I sadly doubt that I will ever be able to support a Republican candidate for the presidency ever again. Unless we are lucky enough to see someone like Tom Tancredo make it through the cannibalistic firestorm of the Republican primaries.
112 posted on 09/19/2005 9:41:04 AM PDT by beeler ("When you’re running down my country, Hoss you’re walking on the fighting side of me.")
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I think both Republicans and Democrats have sold us out. Both Clinton and Bush are both free traitors and globalists. The Republican Party is dominated by the big business interests and what happened to Pat Buchanan in 1996 is a good example of the fate of populist insurgents trying to work within the GOP. For years, I have been working to move the Democratic Party back to mainstream values on social issues, but that is an uphill battle to say the least. If a viable third party with the right kind of values came along, I would join it immediately.

We need a party that will really look out for the long-term interests of our nation and the American people. Those of us who are independent thinkers are a diverse group who are not inclined toward compromise and reaching agreement on a platform. I would like to see a party that would be except for gun control would be basically the opposite of the Libertarian Party.

We need a political party that will stand for traditional social values (pro-life and pro-traditional marriage), for the right to keep and bear arms, controlling our borders and restoring our national sovereignty. We need a party that will maintain a social safety net but promote the right kind of values in society. Most Americans don't want to go back to a 19th Century level of government, but we do want our tax dollars to be spend efficiently and government needs to get back to a pay as you go basis. We need a party that is pro-small business but recognizes that the greed of the marketplace cannot be allowed to run wild, that some market activities must be regulated and multi-national corporations must not be permitted to rule the world. We need a party that believes in economic nationalism and supports the interests in working Americans. What is needed is a party that is socially conservative and economically populist. The rejection of both Social Security privatization and gay marriage in public opinion polls suggests that there would be a constituency for such a party. If a party blended anti-corporate Naderism with a gentler and kinder Buchananism, I think they would be well received by working and middle Americans although certainly hated by the elites. The party could appeal to both working social conservatives now in the GOP and labor Democrats.

I have a lot of respect for the folks in the Constitution Party. They seem to be true Patriots and good Christian people. I do think that their view of the role of government is a too narrow to have broad public appeal and their desire to adopt Biblical law might also frighten away a lot of fairly traditional folks. The Reform Party is in shambles. The Libertarian Party is simply wrong about most things - legalizing hard drugs, open borders, wide open free trade, gay marriage or just abolishing government recognition of marriage altogether. The Green Party is dominated by Pagan peaceniks who would probably focus on animal rights if elected. We need a viable third party that will represent real America.


113 posted on 09/19/2005 9:41:29 AM PDT by RightDemocrat
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I understand the author's point but there are a lot more than three monkeys.

This forum is full of them.


116 posted on 09/19/2005 9:44:28 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (North American Community. What's yours is theirs.)
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Great column!
The key to conservative success will be to transform the Republican Party from within, beginning with the grass roots, rather than vote third party - - that would be idiotic.

Regards,
LH


124 posted on 09/19/2005 9:53:33 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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We saw a group of people like you back in the 1990's, Mikey.
They gave us Bill Clinton when they voted for Ross Perot. We had eight years of oral sex, mismanagement, bandits in the White House, an administration who left our country unprotected from terrorists and one of the most horrible decades in history.

And now you and your party want to give us more of the same? You want to abandon ship rather than stay and fight. Conservatives, as I remember, stand up to be counted. They don't turn tail and run because the party isn't going exactly as they wish. If your attitude belongs with those whom you call conservatives, then I'll stand where I am while you guys throw in the towel and help take down the country.


126 posted on 09/19/2005 9:54:15 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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Excellent post. Always enjoy reading Vox's insights.


144 posted on 09/19/2005 10:21:22 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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I've been saying it for years and years and years, there's no major differences between the republican party and the democratic party. Gimme a break. It's like me saying there's no difference between World Net Daily and the New York Times. Saying it doesn't make it real.
146 posted on 09/19/2005 10:24:21 AM PDT by GOPJ (When the question is "child rape" , the answer is "death penalty".)
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I've been saying it for years and years and years, there's no major differences between the republican party and the democratic party.

Gimme a break. It's like me saying there's no difference between World Net Daily and the New York Times. Saying it doesn't make it real.

147 posted on 09/19/2005 10:24:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (When the question is "child rape" , the answer is "death penalty".)
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Thew collapse has already occurred, GOP spends bigger then Democrats, industry is fleeing the USA and illegal are pouring in. It is over and we (conservatives) lost, sold out by the stupid party.
164 posted on 09/19/2005 1:45:20 PM PDT by jpsb
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Much dirt has been kicked into my face as a conservative but I am still breathing,much to the chagrin of radical liberals and the MSM.

Years ago i read a book by a fanatical liberal feminazi.

She stated the way feminists and abortionists would win the battle is to separate opposition into fighting groups.

The liberal race baiter's and their white enablers in the MSM are doing exactly that as we post.

I hope that many on this forum will not fall prey to these divisive tactics by the mentally ill radicals aimed at ripping our traditional beliefs to the four winds.
173 posted on 09/19/2005 2:25:37 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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WTF.

This Roberts confirmation appears to be a victory.
Heck, Gore and Kerry losing are huge blows.

Why all the whining, have we lost our will to fight back?


185 posted on 09/19/2005 9:18:08 PM PDT by ottersnot (Kill a commie for your mommie....Johnnie Ramone. American Rocker and patriot)
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The only thing collapsing will be The Democratic Crime Syndicate when they are voted into extinction.


186 posted on 09/19/2005 9:23:12 PM PDT by PGalt
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I'm going to be voting LP from now on anyway. Bush was the last straw.


200 posted on 09/20/2005 10:50:29 AM PDT by jjm2111 (99.7 FM Radio Kuwait)
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"I've been saying it for years and years and years, there's no major differences between the republican party and the democratic party."

There fundamental point of view seems to be similar, although I think the Dems come closer to actually having a point of view. Which, in this case, is a plus for the Republicans.

204 posted on 09/20/2005 12:14:50 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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I've been saying it for years and years and years, there's no major differences between the republican party and the democratic party.

Democrats raised taxes. Republicans lowered taxes.

That's a major difference to me.

205 posted on 09/20/2005 12:26:54 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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You are so wrong. There are vast differences between the parties. One would think you would realize that. Hitler or Stalin? Sheesh.
207 posted on 09/21/2005 8:08:49 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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I cannot even tell you how sick I am of this CRAP.

Laura Ingraham was on this pathetic tear this morning.

President Bush inherited a country that was (in spite of the Reagan years) firmly entrenched in the Great Society mentality of Lyndon Johnson.

The welfare state had reigned so supreme that, whatever the third rail means -- I never knew -- it was the fourth or fifth rail. It's children were single moms, poverty pimps and increasing racial divide.

Other children were political correctness, feminism, environmental wacko-ism. These children gave us refusals to drill for oil, myriad standards for gasoline making it fiscally unprofitable to build refineries, abortions by the millions, including partial birth.

This is the society he inherited. You can't change an ingrained mindset like this over night. If you try, you will just lose, as Hillary found out when she tried to force a health care agenda all at once. She could probably have done it incrementally.

Bush has done SO much. He opened up the Social Security discussion that no one before him had dared to touch. He may not get it done, but at least people are thinking about it. This is important--because, left untouched, the social security system would have inevitably led to socialism.

He got tax cuts which the demos fight tooth and nail. He has dealt with a horrible attack on the country and led a war that we won so easily, everyone has decided it wasn't necessary.

He has remained courteous and affable in the face of the most unfair and lying attacks.

And NOW he has to hear this kind of crap from his own people.


211 posted on 09/27/2005 8:17:36 AM PDT by altura
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Bump for later.


212 posted on 09/27/2005 8:18:13 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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FIFTEEN EASY WAYS TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS

Democrats buy most of the books that have been banned somewhere. Republicans form censorship committees and read them as a group.

Republicans consume three fourths of all the rutabega produced in this country. The remainder is thrown out.

Republicans usually wear hats and almost always clean their paint brushes.

Democrats give their worn-out clothes to the less fortunate. Republicans wear theirs.

Republicans employ exterminators. Democrats step on the bugs.

Republicans tend to keep their shades drawn, although there is seldom any reason why they should. Democrats ought to, but don’t.

Democrats created Earth Day and most of the current environmental legislation.

Most of the stuff alongside the road has been thrown out of the windows by Democrats.

Republicans raise dahlias and dalmatians. Democrats raise pit bulls and taxes.

Democrats eat the fish they catch. Republicans hang them on the wall.

Democrats make up plans and then do something else. Republicans follow the plans their grandfathers made.


213 posted on 09/27/2005 9:21:37 AM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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Sorry if the GOP brings even 60% of what i view to be good for the country it is good enough for me
granted right now i am not thrilled with them but do i want any gun grabbers like Kerry or Hillary in the Presidency? DO i want my taxes raised? Do i want to be subjugated by the UN? If i vote for a "third" party i help the Democrats win whether you like it or not.


215 posted on 10/04/2005 5:05:05 AM PDT by DM1
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