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Now, I am no landscape artist or architect...but surely we can come up with...and expect...something for this memorial that is all-American in nature and truly represents the meaning of those barve soul's sacrifice.
1 posted on 09/14/2005 7:39:45 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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FYI...my thoughts.


2 posted on 09/14/2005 7:40:25 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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I'll send my comments on - the crescent is a blasphemous insult - thanks for doing this.


3 posted on 09/14/2005 7:43:38 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Is your problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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I like the circle theme, but I think it would be better to have the memorial in the shape of a hand with all the fingers clenched into a fist,. except for the middle finger, which would be extended to the fullest. The memorial would then point DIRECTLY at Mecca.


Comments?


4 posted on 09/14/2005 7:44:18 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Bumper sticker "Martyrs or Marines: Who do YOU think will get the virgins?")
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Nice design. (Too bad it wasn't/won't be supported by the liberal artsy-faky groups.

Few questions:

40 Passengers. Crew included with that 40?

What about plaque/panel or engraved list of those who died in DC when the murderers dove their into the Pentagon?
7 posted on 09/14/2005 7:49:19 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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Jeff I don't know what the 39 florettes represent, maybe the reverse of the 93 in the flight number. How about using 40 florettes, one for each passenger?


8 posted on 09/14/2005 7:49:29 PM PDT by HighWheeler ("Would I turn on the gas if my pal Mugsy were in there?" "Ye might rabbit, ye might." ~ Bugs, 1954)
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Excellent, Jeff. I like your design and your reasoning.

On another point, was your 'typo' on 'givernment' deliberate or accidental. LOL! Very appropriate. A new word for FR's lexicon.

11 posted on 09/14/2005 7:53:03 PM PDT by Eastbound
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You bet your ass that both the shape of and the orientation of the "Crescent of Embrace" was intentional. The alignment (which matches neither the flight path nor any cardinal direction) matches the required "prayer" angle to Mecca as exactly as the shape matches the Islamokazi crescent.

I MUCH prefer your design.

13 posted on 09/14/2005 7:54:24 PM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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How about a beverage cart smashing throught the cresent and breaking its back?


14 posted on 09/14/2005 7:55:23 PM PDT by HighWheeler ("Would I turn on the gas if my pal Mugsy were in there?" "Ye might rabbit, ye might." ~ Bugs, 1954)
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Before everyone has a panic attack over the memorial design you need to listen to this interview today by Dan Caplis and Craig Silverman of KHOW. They talked with the wife of the flight 93 pilot and she was also on the board of the design committee.

http://www.khow.com/mpdownload/9-14_sandydahl.wma
(Windows Media Player)

She says the memorial design should go on as planned. None of the families members of the folks who died in the crash object to design either.

16 posted on 09/14/2005 7:58:24 PM PDT by ajolympian2004
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Great design, Jeff. From the first moment I saw the 'Crescent of Embrace', and heard the asinine excuse that the topography called for that type of landscape, I wondered why they didn't just close the circle. You have shown that not only would that be possible, but would be true to the spirit of those the memorial is meant to honor.

The only thing I would consider is maybe an eagle and American flag for the central statue instead of a mini Lady Liberty. It would be more in keeping with an icon of the fallen heroes' fighting spirit. Besides, I don't envision this site to be a welcome mat, which is the essence of the Statue of Liberty.

Just my muddling 2 cents. And worth at least half that.
19 posted on 09/14/2005 8:07:13 PM PDT by Antonello
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The memorial to Flight 93 should be based on the above.

20 posted on 09/14/2005 8:11:22 PM PDT by sourcery ("Compelling State Interest" is the refuge of judicial activist traitors against the Constitution)
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That red crescent is the most tactless, tasteless tribute to our fallen heroes of Flight 93 that I have ever seen! There is NO WAY IN HELL I would accept that as a design! There's no need to desecrate this hallowed ground with the symbol of the Islamofascists!


41 posted on 09/14/2005 8:51:58 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, Cindy Sheehan, grow up!)
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I like your design better.

As far as the crescent, it may well have been a "duuh" moment. Remember Chevy tried to sell the Nova in Mexico, only to find out that "no va" means "(it) doesn't go" in spanish.
"Never attribute to malice that which may be attributed to sheer stupidity."


44 posted on 09/14/2005 8:59:46 PM PDT by Ostlandr ("I hunt, therefore I am." -Metallica, "Of Wolf and Man")
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It looks like another victory for sanity and the blogosphere according to the LGF Blog:

Flight 93 Memorial Will Be Changed

51 posted on 09/14/2005 9:40:18 PM PDT by Reagan is King (Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it)
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Great American Ballpark in downtown Cincinnati is actually a top secret Islamic mosque and place of worship:


Notice the crescent shape of the upper deck.

;)

54 posted on 09/14/2005 10:13:00 PM PDT by ajolympian2004
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A quick note of the families, I am willing to give good odds they were hand picked fof their PC-ness.


59 posted on 09/15/2005 4:43:43 AM PDT by razorback-bert (FR spell checker doesn't know Freeper is a word)
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To: Jeff Head; StarCMC

My letter I sent yesterday thanks to Star CMC:

I wanted to let you know that I am appalled that the Flight 93 memorial is in the shape of a crescent, which you may or may not know is a symbol of Islam. To make a memorial to victims that were brave enough to stand up and fight against terrorists, knowing that they would die doing it, be in a shape of the religious symbol of the perpetrators, is sick and a slap in the face to their heroics. Osama Bin Laden’s act of terror on the United States of America ended when the brave men and women of flight 93 formed a citizen militia and took down the plane. They died on their terms to save the lives of unknown numbers of people in unknown places. They need to be honored for fighting Islamic terrorists and that is not done be building an Islamic crescent on the crash site. Planting trees to form the battle cry “let’s roll” would be better and it would remind all people who see it that we can not idly sit in our seats when terror strikes, we need to stand up and take action. In short, be American. That is why our country was founded and those are the principles on which it was built. That is why we are the greatest nation on Earth. Please do not use the current proposal for the Flight 93 Heroes.



67 posted on 09/15/2005 7:50:21 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Well behaved women rarely make history. Laurel Thatcher Ulrich)
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Jeff:

Thanks for this thread and for supporting the effort to modify this Memorial.

I agree with you that it is totally inappropriate to honor the heroism of those on Flight 93 with a crescent symbol.

I visited the Shanksville site last October and was moved to tears and filled with pride at the magnitude of their sacrifice on 9-11-01.

From the Flight 93 Webpage:
Comments and Suggestions are encouraged.

By Mail
National Park Service
109 West Main Street, Suite 104
Somerset, PA 15501-2035

PLEASE EMAIL
Joanne_Hanley@nps.gov

By Phone
Ms Joanne Hanley
Superintendent - Flight 93 National Memorial
(814) 443-4557

By Fax
(814)443-2180

Do let the National Park Service and your Senators & Representatives know your opinions.
US Capitol Hill operator toll free: 866-727-4894

Also EMAIL:

FLNI_Superintendent@nps.gov


Do you know anyone else we should contact?

And Freepers should call their Senators & Representatives because this Memorial will have public funding.

Regardless of whether the families accept this 'Crescent of Embrace'....all Americans are paying for the National Memorial so we need to make our voices heard!


74 posted on 09/15/2005 8:42:46 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Jabbar Gibson for mayor of Newer Orleans)
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Jeff & ALL:

I just called this number and spoke with Adam who is taking comments on the proposed Memorial. Superintendent Hanley is unavailable.

Superintendent - Flight 93 National Memorial
(814) 443-4557


He told me the name has been changed to 'Circle of Embrace'....but he said it is a broken circle interruped by path of the plane's crash site.

I said that just changing the name isn't the solution and that the offensive crescent symbol must be removed or modified.

I asked if there will be public hearings before the Memorial plan is finalized.

He was uncertain....but he said I could leave my name & address to be put on a list to receive written notice early in 2006 when the NPS's 'General Management' discusses the final plans.

He also took down my comments objecting to the present proposal.

FRiends: Please call ASAP:

Office of Superintendent - Flight 93 National Memorial

(814) 443-4557



78 posted on 09/15/2005 9:18:40 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Jabbar Gibson for mayor of Newer Orleans)
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Clear thinking from a Real American.


80 posted on 09/15/2005 9:28:28 AM PDT by Doomonyou (FR doesn't suffer fools lightly.)
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