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Judge Roberts Bats A Thousand (I smell a 'RAT, do you?)
Yahoo News ^ | 14 Sept 05 | Maggie Gallagher

Posted on 09/14/2005 5:38:44 PM PDT by gobucks

It was a battle of the sound bites yesterday at the Senate Supreme Court nomination hearings. The score? Judge John G. Roberts 1, Democrats 0.

Each of the senators got first licks yesterday in a round of ceremonial speeches, but last up was Roberts himself, and he hit the ball out of the park: In his opening statement, Roberts made his role crystal clear by a homey analogy. "Judges are like umpires. Umpires don't make the rules; they apply them. ... Nobody ever went to a ballgame to see the umpire." Then he promised, "And I will remember that it's my job to calls balls and strikes, and not to pitch or bat."

Good thing, too, the senators must be saying, after watching Roberts go to bat for himself.

Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., meanwhile, set sail in a sea of lofty rhetoric, noting the chief justice's future responsibilities were "awesome" -- not "in the way my teenage daughter would use the word," but in the biblical sense, like "angels trembling in the presence of God."

Like, wow, man. Just when you were wondering how high Schumer might soar (especially while sailing), suddenly the good senator beached himself in a big, wet mess of metaphor: "(The American people) need to know -- above all -- that if you take stewardship of the high court, you will not steer it so far out of the mainstream that it founders in the shallow waters of extremist ideology. As far as your own views go, however, we have only scratched the surface. In a sense, we have seen maybe 10 percent of you -- just the visible tip of the iceberg, not the 90 percent that is still submerged. And we all know that it is the ice beneath the surface that can sink the ship."

While Schumer was scratching his surface looking for the rest of Roberts, in order to sink him, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., movingly reminded us that She Is A Woman -- A Woman A Lot Older Than You: "As a college student at Stanford, I watched the passing of the plate to collect money so a young woman could go to Tijuana for a back-alley abortion." (Just watched, senator?) Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., digressed into something about "the price of gasoline and the safety of prescription drugs." (Now there's a guy who knows how to use 15 minutes on national TV.) Republican senators mostly used their time to hand Roberts free passes, as in Do Not Answer Question, Judge, Do Pass Go, Collect Supreme Court Seat.

I noticed only one new development: an attempt by left-leaning senators to borrow the right-wing judicial tyranny rhetoric and apply it to decisions by the Supreme Court striking down laws liberals favored. A successful new "framing"? I doubt it. This rhetoric no longer works for conservatives, because the game of politics has become so visibly nasty, partisan and uncivil that few Americans feel very good about the democratic branches of government.

Senators will no doubt continue to speak of themselves in the third person plural, as the voice of We the People. Meanwhile, public approval of the Senate, as Sen. Lindsey Graham (news, bio, voting record), R-S.C., himself pointed out, hovers in the 30s.

Americans want some public spaces that "rise above" partisan politics. They want an institution that they can be proud of, and if Congress won't or can't comply, the Supreme Court will do.

Prediction: This is bad news in the long run for America, and for conservatives who have been on the receiving end of the Supreme Court's gradual expansion of its own institutional power and authority. The good news for conservatives is that this same trend will gently buoy Judge Roberts above the iceberg of Chuck Schumer's animosity and onto the placid sea of a seat on the Supreme Court.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 109th; johnroberts; maggiegallagher; robertshearings; scotus
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To: gobucks

IMO, the dims know that they can only try hard to take down one nominee. Roberts is too far out of their league to bring down, so they are keeping their powder dry. I think the final committee vote is 10-8 and the full senate goes 60-40 with Lieberman, Johnson, Lincoln, and the Nelsons going for confirmation. Roberts could pull off a few more red state dims, but it would be a stretch.


41 posted on 09/14/2005 6:12:04 PM PDT by EJayB (I don't know why Bill cheated, I think Hillary blows as much as Monica...)
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To: gobucks

Neither. Central Florida.

Roberts has a grasp of our beloved constitution that left the left in the dust.


42 posted on 09/14/2005 6:13:57 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: gobucks
Thanks for the info on Ted Knight. He was a great "Ted Baxter;" sounds like he was an even greater Tadeus Wladyslaw Konopka.
43 posted on 09/14/2005 6:14:24 PM PDT by hummingbird (21st Century Newsreporting - "Don't get me started!")
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To: Paloma_55

Not necessarily. The "Right to Privacy" is a term which can be applied to several of the amendments in the Bill of Rights, collectively. For instance, the government does not have the right to search your home unless they have reasonable grounds to conclude that you have committed a crime.

Furthermore, the ninth amendment maintains that the enumeration of certain rights by the constitution may not be used to deny other rights. In other words, just because the Constitution doesn't say that a right exists doesn't mean that the government has the authority to deny you those rights.

The issue at stake in the abortion debate is not whether there exists a right to privacy -- Judge Roberts correctly stated that all nine Supreme Court judges believed in one -- but whether that right to privacy includes the right to obtain an abortion. This is where the issues of originalism, self-determination and judicial supremacy come into play: The founding fathers defintely did not believe that a right to an abortion was a natural (supra-constitional) right when they passed the ninth amendment, so does that mean that a later generation can assert that abortion rights are a natural right? And if so, how is that decision made, through legislation, jurisprudence, or constitutional amendment? And if the federal government does decide that such a right does exist, does it have the authority to impose that decision on the states?


44 posted on 09/14/2005 6:15:52 PM PDT by dangus
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To: gobucks

Funny, I thought Ted Baxter created Cosmic Cow.


45 posted on 09/14/2005 6:16:53 PM PDT by dangus
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To: gobucks
If he is like Scalia in this 'devout Catholic' part ... great. But I have to agree w/ Crackingham ... if he were such a devout Catholic, why is the MSM so thrilled to death with this guy?

First off, even though Scalia is a devout Catholic he does not follow Catholic teaching on natural law--he is at odds with _Evangelium Vitae_ regarding laws that contradict natural law being unjust and do not compel obedience. I still like Scalia very much, but one must recognize that he had this huge argument with JPII's position on this.

Second, social conservatives need to listen carefully to what Roberts is saying. To undo the huge and vicious mess that the activist liberal SCOTUS has gotten us into we cannot stoop to the same judicial activism or we are just as bad as they are. Instead, the umpire image he used has to be followed rigorously. That may or may not lead to overturning Roe v. Wade--it should lead to that (it was outrageously bad constitutional interpretation) but even if R v. W is overturned some day, it only returns the issue to the state legislatures where it belongs. In the meantime, by his umpire analogy, plenty of ways of chipping away at R. v W. are possible. The judicial activism, legislating from the bench has to be stopped and Roberts is 100 % good for that. But precisely because he respects the role of the judge as umpire and not player, he will not use SCOTUS to create laws that social conservatives might find useful Congress and state legislatures have to do that and if they do, then a Roberts court--a majority of Robertses--would leave stand the legislation the legislatures pass instead of overturning it.

We could then have the Partial Birth Abortion ban instead of the Souterses and Stevenses and various federal judges overturning it. We are winning the battle in the red state legislatures. Our problem is that the elitist activist courts undo what we gain through our elections. Stopping that is all we should be asking for; to go beyond that is to turn around and do what we decry the libs for doing.

In that light, Roberts is _not_ another Souter. If the problem has been liberal activist judges, then Roberts's testimony and his writings show that he is not one of those.

There is one other possibility: perhaps you think he is lying through his teeth when he uses the umpire analogy and, when seated, will become a judicial activist? He has told us he will not. To assume that he will without evidence is grossly unfair--it's the sort of thing a Ted Kennedy or a Joe Biden or a Charles Schumer would do. Don't stoop to their methods. Or do you have evidence that he's a liar,that he says one thing and does another, that he can't be trusted? If so, what is that evidence? Accusing someone of being a deceiver is serious business and you better have evidence for it.

We don't want our agenda forced on the American people by courts any more than we want the Libs' agenda forced on us by courts. What we need are the courts returned to being true courts rather than legislatures and then we have to do the hard slogging work of legislating in the legislatures the sort of social order and morality that we believe in.

It's myopic to start calling Roberts another Souter. There's no evidence of that because he steadfastly refuses to give political answers. Souter has a record of political activist judicial rulings. Roberts has again and again pledged to hear each case strictly according to the law. That's exactly what a judge needs to do and unless you have some evidence that he will become a judicial activist for the left, insisting he's another Souter is stupid. And we have no business wishing for a judicial activist from the Right.

46 posted on 09/14/2005 6:17:12 PM PDT by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: Ann Archy

"Diane feinstein is The Bad Seed."

No no....Nurse Kratchett.

No, even better, Bette Davis, in that movie where she feeds her crippled sister rats .... ummmm

Not hush hush sweet charlotte ... no...

Ah... Whatever happened to Baby Jane.... sheesh that flick gave me the utter creeps!!


47 posted on 09/14/2005 6:23:14 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: msnimje
"The Democrats are so deluded by their own convoluted logic that they think the "right" to abortion stems from the right to privacy. John Roberts does not."

A basic question arises here: does the right to privacy for one individual in a society trump the right of another individual to live and pursue happiness in that society?

If Democrats believe the answer is, "Yes," then do they really believe the United States Constitution intended to make women the only class of citizens who possess the right to deprive another of his/her right to live? And, why do men not object to this very obvious discriminatory interpretation of the Constitution?

49 posted on 09/14/2005 6:26:24 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: msnimje

" Why would you ever takes clues as to what you should think about something or someone from the MSM? "

I knew for certain W. was going to be relected in FEB of last year by watching Katie Couric review w/ Tim W's performance on M.The.Depressed. Katie's reaction at his performance was so listless. Sure W was ok, but it was how she soft pedaled the whole thing. Katie is a sicko lady, yes, but you can tell alot about what's going on simply by watching what she's chuckling at ... and what she is ignoring...

Besides, given the vast amount of voters take their cues from MSM product streams, not FReerepublic, it doesn't hurt to integrate the information....


50 posted on 09/14/2005 6:26:41 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: wingman1

"More BS. Didn't Boxer say something similar not too long ago?"

I am not sure what about Boxer's comments your linking to ... sorry...more info?


51 posted on 09/14/2005 6:29:04 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: cynicom

Anyone that believes the dems are rolling and playing dead for no reason is in for a surprise.

So it isn't just me. Thanks.


52 posted on 09/14/2005 6:30:38 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: Ann Archy
If Joe Biden is the Ted Baxter of the Senate then who is the Eddie Haskell??

That's easy. It is Dick "Turban" Durbin.

53 posted on 09/14/2005 6:31:05 PM PDT by NeoCaveman ("Government is not the solution, it is the problem" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: gobucks

Well I don't recall the MSM up in arms about Scalia and he turned out alright.


54 posted on 09/14/2005 6:31:13 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: SE Mom

I hope you are correct, and that I'm merely confused. If he really does get down to brass tacks about what the constitution actually STATES, then perhaps we'll get to witness a great deal of good.

Time will tell.

Btw, its too bad the Gators never play the Buckeyes ... it would be a great match up. (I love the Homasassa Springs area).


55 posted on 09/14/2005 6:33:35 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

Good post, well-stated.


56 posted on 09/14/2005 6:34:22 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: SE Mom

I hope you are correct, and that I'm merely confused. If he really does get down to brass tacks about what the constitution actually STATES, then perhaps we'll get to witness a great deal of good.

Time will tell.

Btw, its too bad the Gators never play the Buckeyes ... it would be a great match up. (I love the Homasassa Springs area).


57 posted on 09/14/2005 6:35:19 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: gobucks

I recall Boxer recently making reference to back alley abortions in large numbers, etc.

Let me see if I can find something and I will post to this thread.


58 posted on 09/14/2005 6:35:44 PM PDT by wingman1 (University of Vietnam 1970. Forget? Hell.)
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To: hummingbird

You are welcome ; it is so rare when I do a lookup on any actor or actress where 'normal' families exist. It seems he was one of the few. He was married to one woman anyway all along .... that's noteworthy in itself.


59 posted on 09/14/2005 6:36:35 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: dangus

The internet is amazing. I have never watched too close for comfort enough to know any trivia, which I think is a good thing.....

But I know what cosmic cow now is ....


and another funny thing: I didn't know he played a conservative cartoonist.


60 posted on 09/14/2005 6:39:57 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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