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PLEASE HELP ME HELP MY 13 YEAR OLD GRANDSON PREPARE FOR A DEBATE IN HIS SOCIAL STUDIES CLASS
09-14-05 | self

Posted on 09/14/2005 2:19:04 PM PDT by visitor

My grandson, a student in a Georgia Public School, is being tasked by his 7th Grade Social Studies Teacher to debate the question "what has President George W. Bush done for the poor people of our Country," not to include Katrina...rto


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To: visitor

Greatly improved the economy.


81 posted on 09/14/2005 4:15:43 PM PDT by Wiseghy (Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. – Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: visitor

Tell him not to enter a debate with idiots and scoundrels, for then it might become difficult to tell who is who.


82 posted on 09/14/2005 4:54:27 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: visitor

The FACTS are in the Office of Management and Budget FY 2006 historical tables.

By both Dollars AND percentages, George Bush has "done more for poor people" than any other president in USA history.

"Done more for poor people" is mush-mouth for Marxism. "Doing something for poor people" are tihngs like giving $2000 debit cards to the "poor people" of New Orleans so they can go buy big screen TVs and $500 purses, even though our LUNATIC leaders believe they will use it to buy necessities (eyewitness reports I state from clients I know who own property there).

If you need links on how to get these figures, send me a private FReep mail.

I can tell you this much:

According to the OFFICIAL facts, George Bush's latest budget allocates $1.675 trilllion dollars toward "Human Resources", the broadest measure of "poor people spending". Scumbag's last budget allocated $1.194 trillion toward the same category. George Bush is spending more than $500 billion MORE than Scumbag for "poor people". This equates to 65.26 cents of evry dollar spent going toward "poor people" while Scumbag spent 64.11 cents of every dollar toward "poor people".

Please tell your child that "doing for poor people" is stealing from taxpayers. Please tell your child that "doing for poor people" often keeps these people poor and dependent on the government, so it is a negative action, not a positive action.

Your child's Marxist teacher will not like this, but it is the truth.

These stats are just one broad category of "doing for poor people". Other "doings" are not reflected in this Superfunction of "Human Resources", such as:........... President Bush has allocated $15 billion toward the Millenium Fund, the global UN run Kumbaya Wealth Transfer program. No other president in US history has given away more taxpayers' dollars toward foreign "poor people" than George Bush.

George Bush has also canceled more "poor people debt" than any other US president. Debt cancelation runs into the hundreds of billions of dollars.

Your child may also want to read up on George Bush's promise to give "poor people" $5 billion for downpayments for homes, something Scumbag never did nor any other president. Taxpayers of America never had the government pay their downpayment, but George Bush seems pleased to take money from Mr. Smith and give it to Mr. Jones so Mr. Jones can buy a home. This is more "poor people giving programs".

Teach your child that the idiot teachers who think "doing something for poor people" is good does the opposite--giving freebies (which was stolen from honest taxpayers) to poor people gives us a New Orleans outcome as people expect everything to be given to them and they have no desire to think for themselves or work for themselves. Your child's Marxist teacher does not understand that.

Good luck!

I am not white, I am a minority. (Just in case your Marxist teacher happens to see some of this--we know what the teacher will assume).


83 posted on 09/14/2005 4:54:59 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: visitor

Just tell him to say "Bush sucks and he's done nothing for poor people" That should get him an A+.
Other than here on FR where is he going to find the answer?
MSM will be of no help.


84 posted on 09/14/2005 5:00:59 PM PDT by PositiveCogins
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To: visitor


IMO, a trick question, WE are responsible for taking care of ourselves, rich or poor doesn't matter, no President is responsible for the decisions each of us makes.


85 posted on 09/14/2005 5:11:07 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: Wiseghy

Presidents do NOT "greatly improve the economy".

Presidents do NOT "greatly deteriorate the economy".

George Bush should not get blamed for the recent recession.

Scumbag should not get credit for the Y2K driven boom in the late 90s.

Jimmy Carter did not cause inflation. Ronald Reagan did not cause the early 80s recession. Ronald Reagan did not cause the mid-late 80s boom.

REPEAT AFTER ME.......the biggest driver of the economy is the BUSINESS CYCLE!

All together now........the biggest driver of the economy is the BUSINESS CYCLE!

The business cycle is inanimate--no president, no person "greatly improves the business cycle" nor "greatly trashes the business cycle".

The United States represents less than 30% of the world economy. Our economy is linked to the world economy. George Bush is not president of China, nor is he president of Japan, nor of the UK, nor of Vietnam.

Please............never say a president "improves the economy" or a president "hurts the economy". You truly need to study up on economics.

If you visualize the Oval Office having levers and buttons that the president pushes to increase jobs, decrease jobs, or increase demand or decrease demand, or increase supply or to change trends or to come out with some new invention, then please take that visual out of your brain permenently.

For what it is worth, of all the recent presidents, the one who had the most impact on the economy was Ronald Reagan (for the positive).

The president does NOT control the economy, and he does not have levers and buttons in the WHite House that controls the economy. Please repeat that 1000 times before your next post.


86 posted on 09/14/2005 5:11:32 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Hat-Trick
, having spent BILLIONS on various forms of welfare assistance

Billions?

TRILLIONS!

In fact, we are spending over $1 trillion JUST THIS LATEST BUDGET--in one year! Even most conservatives do not realize that we spend over ONE TRILLION every year on social welfare (Superfunction "Human Resources" in the OMB).

87 posted on 09/14/2005 5:17:21 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: visitor

President Bush named African Americans to his staff (General Colin Powell and Dr. Condi Rice as Secretary of State). He's named more minorities to high level posts than any Democrat has ever done. The point here is that minorities do not possess the wealth during their school years that many white folks do. Thus, this gesture is a step in the right direction for creating complete equality here in the U.S.


88 posted on 09/14/2005 5:17:41 PM PDT by jscottdavis_for_48th_district (J. Scott Davis http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jscottdavisfanclub ...... Onward To Hollywood)
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To: SuperSonic


OMG after reading this I think I qualify as poor,,,hey, where's my $2000. debit card, where's my food stamps, where's my free housing, clothes, toiletries, unemployment bennies????????


89 posted on 09/14/2005 5:21:21 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

My apologies. You are correct. TRILLIONS!


90 posted on 09/14/2005 5:21:57 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Hat-Trick

Certainly no apology is required. Like I said, even most conservatives do not know that over $1 trillion is spent every single year on various social programs.

Another thing that most people believe is that "the biggest expense category in the US Budget is Defense. If 100 people were lined up at random and that statement was made and the 100 were asked TRUE or FALSE, what % do you think would say TRUE?

The fact is, social welfare receives THREE TIMES the spending than what the Department of Defense receives. As the world gets more dangerous, we are spending less and less on Defense (% of Defense spending versus total spending) and more and more on social welfare.

The % of total spending allocated to Defense has been on a decline ever since JFK, broken only by Ronald Reagan, until 9/11 when George Bush bumped up the %.

Even so, Bush is spending less than 20 cents of every dollar on Defense, even after 9/11, whereas JFK spent nearly 48 cents of every dollar on Defense.


91 posted on 09/14/2005 5:34:11 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: kjo
This was sooo good, I'm going to raise it tomorrow in my AP Government classroom as a discussion topic. They're all a bunch of little genius socialists, although I would posit that as alsmost an oxymoron.
92 posted on 09/14/2005 5:39:37 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: visitor
Another suggestion: Get some "Uncle Eric" books for your grandson. They are good reads on conservative thought, written at a middle school level, highly readable and interesting. I would start with Whatever Happened to Penny Candy and Whatever Happened to Justice.

You probably won't find them in a library or bookstore. Everytime I've tried to buy an Uncle Eric book locally, the clerk or librarian sniffs, "We don't carry that KIND of book here." LOL. Try Blue Stocking Press.

93 posted on 09/14/2005 5:56:32 PM PDT by RightField
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

The pervasive dependence on government (city, state, and especially federal) frightens me more than just about any other problem in our country. I'm pretty sure the founders wouldn't recognize what we've become.


94 posted on 09/14/2005 6:04:35 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

"He has sold them out. They will be washed away in a sea of illterate foreigners willing to work for half the amount that can be legally paid, to an American. "





At least the illiterate foreigners are willing to work, which is the one thing the poor never seem to able to do. A free market pays what is considered fair by consumers.
Do you pay more for a product than it's worth? I'll bet you don't. You talk about "globalist" as if it's a bad word.

The poor have received more under him than any other president I know of.


95 posted on 09/14/2005 6:39:29 PM PDT by DilJective (Property ownership is a right. Taxing us out of our homes is criminal.)
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To: hsalaw
Just throwing around money doesn't fix this; education and values do, and Pres. Bush has contributed more than any prior president to both.

Sorry, I think GWB in this area is a light weight compared to Reagan, for relatively recent presidents. If you compare Bush relatively to todays morals of society, he "may" seem great. But I don't view character by relativism, I see it by absolutes. I think many presidents in our past had a better grip on character, if simply because society was much more integrity filled. Presidents like Washington, Adams, Jefferson.

96 posted on 09/14/2005 7:35:47 PM PDT by mountn man (Everyone brings joy into a room. Some when they enter. Others when they leave)
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To: visitor
President Bush has helped maintain and defend a country in which:

Note the cable/satellite TV & large screen TV percentages.

97 posted on 09/14/2005 7:44:53 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: longtermmemmory

"Why not ask what has local government done? "

Or the Congress...except skewer Bush?


98 posted on 09/14/2005 7:58:49 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: visitor

1. Record homeownership rates; even the poor own homes now.

2. (Attempted) private retirement accounts that make the poor less dependent on a governement system and gives them real wealth that can be passed on.

3. Injected a small semblence of expectations into the public school monster.

4. Retained their freedom against tyranny

5. Reinvigorated the idea of faith and respect for life into the country.


99 posted on 09/14/2005 8:07:06 PM PDT by gore_sux (and so does Xlinton)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Thank you so much for the information!!!


100 posted on 09/14/2005 9:08:09 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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