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Disarming the National Guard? [PA Guard unit serving in LA ordered to remove magazines from rifles]
Michelle Malkin ^ | September 13, 2005 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 09/14/2005 12:29:25 PM PDT by John Jorsett

Posters note: This has been rectified (see last item at the bottom), but it still serves as a lesson on how far some people will go in the name of making us "safe" from guns.

Looks like civilians aren't the only ones being disarmed in the Katrina disaster area.

An old Philadelphia acquaintance of mine who serves in a leadership position in a National Guard infantry company, deployed to Bogalusa, Louisiana, on security missions in support of Hurricane Katrina operations, sends along a plea for self-defense help:

We fall under Task Force Santa Fe, commanded by GEN Mason, commanding general of the 35th Infantry Division. Gen Mason has issued us the order to remove the magazines from our weapons, a move that will put my soldiers lives in jeopardy. If a soldier has a problem here, he needs to remove the magazine from the pouch, insert it in the weapon, pull the charging handle, aim the weapon, place the selector lever on "safe" and then fire. It takes a good soldier approximately 6-9 seconds to do this under normal conditions. This is not counting the stress of being under fire, or having a life threatening emergency, which would probably double that time. Hell, 6 seconds is an eternity on the street. We still have a threat here, the police don't want us to go, nor do the citizenry. Since our arrival we helped reduce crime to record levels here. The main reason behind this is we are working with a LTC Landis of the PA Air guard who only wishes to go home, forget the mission, he wants to get his people and himself back to PA. We, on the other hand, would be stuck here, veritably unarmed in squalid conditions in Hammond, LA. The reason given by Gen Mason is that he would reduce the chance of an accidental discharge of a weapon. I have to ask, what looks worse, an accidental discharge or a soldier killed by a criminal? Sen Santorum is supposedly aware of this situation. Please help.

There's more info on the much-needed--and much-welcomed--security operations of my acquaintance's unit here.If you're serving in the National Guard and have had a similar experience, drop me a line.

E-mail Sen. Santorum here.

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Hmmm. Wonder if the National Guardsmen whom this Democratic congressman used as personal escorts to his New Orleans house were allowed to carry fully-loaded weapons? (ABC News via Drudge)

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9/14 morning update: Just received from my National Guard source:

The situation I described in an email earlier about the PA Guard in Louisiana being told to disarm byt a MGEN Mason, has ben rectified. BGEN Jones, the overall ground commander, has overidden Gen Mason's orders. We found this out at about 10 last night. Hope this didn't start a little row somewhere.

Looks like it worked.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; antimilitary; atf; banglist; batf; disarmament; disarmement; malkin; michellemalkin; nationalguard; righttokeepandbear; rkba; secondamendment; un; unconstitutional
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To: Snake65

Spitballs.


21 posted on 09/14/2005 12:37:20 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: John Jorsett
This happens all the time. Rarely are guardsmen armed unless escorting equipment that needs protecting.
Not saying it is wise, just not unusual.
23 posted on 09/14/2005 12:38:09 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: neverdem

Ping


24 posted on 09/14/2005 12:38:13 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm expecting that some people who are die-hards will die hard.'' -NOLA parish president)
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To: Born Conservative

No Magazine!

25 posted on 09/14/2005 12:40:32 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: 2banana

same with the UNARMED guards on the USS Cole


26 posted on 09/14/2005 12:42:18 PM PDT by LadyBuzz
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To: Snake65
We're on the express elevator to Hell...going down!
27 posted on 09/14/2005 12:42:55 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Nac Mac Feegle! The Wee Free Men! Nae king! Nae quin! Nae laird! We willna be fooled again!")
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To: John Jorsett

The failure to have armed people enforcing the law is what caused the crime before. Oh, sorry, those crimes are just "urban myths".


28 posted on 09/14/2005 12:49:03 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: GrandEagle

Not unusual since Kent State anyway.


29 posted on 09/14/2005 12:49:15 PM PDT by Roccus (BEWARE of stupid people in very large numbers.)
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To: John Jorsett
[PA Guard unit serving in LA ordered to remove magazines from rifles]

This is nothing new. The libs did the same in Los Angeles with the National Guard at LAX in the wake of 9/11.

What's really sad is that it was so obvious. I just stared in disbelief at a guardsman until he finally said, "Can I help you, sir?" And I blurted out, "My God...you have no clip! You have no ammunition!"

"Move along, sir," was all I got as a reply.

30 posted on 09/14/2005 12:49:47 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: kendu

No, I suspect Senn Penn himself was loaded.

He's certainly full of something.


31 posted on 09/14/2005 12:49:51 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A good friend helps you move. A great friend helps you move a body.)
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To: Tennessee_Bob
We're on the express elevator to Hell...going down!

Game over, man! Game over!

32 posted on 09/14/2005 12:50:23 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
I suspect Senn Penn himself was loaded.

In more ways than two, I'm sure.

33 posted on 09/14/2005 12:51:11 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Roccus
I thought I was the only one that remembered that one.
LOL! Showing your age too huh?

Cordially,
GE
34 posted on 09/14/2005 12:51:34 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: John Jorsett
If a soldier has a problem here, he needs to remove the magazine from the pouch, insert it in the weapon, pull the charging handle, aim the weapon, place the selector lever on "safe" and then fire.

I suggest the soldier put the weapon on "Semi" or "Auto" if he actually wants to fire it.

35 posted on 09/14/2005 12:54:00 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Snake65
"What the hell are we supposed to use, man, harsh language?"

Wise words, Pvt. Frost. Too bad nobody listens.

36 posted on 09/14/2005 12:55:07 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Blood of Tyrants
place the selector lever on "safe"

I read it twice and didn't see this. My brain inserted "... lever off safe..", sure makes more sense huh?
37 posted on 09/14/2005 12:56:51 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: John Jorsett; Txslady

PING! Thanks!


38 posted on 09/14/2005 12:57:18 PM PDT by countrydummy
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To: MeanWestTexan

MeanWestTexan swings and drives one outta the park!
Outstanding


39 posted on 09/14/2005 12:58:08 PM PDT by CAP811 (One man can change the world with a bullet in the right place)
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To: yldstrk

Democrats only love armed looters and terrorists.

Disarming the NG is obviously a move to not enforce the disarming of terrorists.


40 posted on 09/14/2005 12:58:31 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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