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I Just Called Flight 93 National Memorial
Vanity | 09-13-05 | Balding_Eagle

Posted on 09/13/2005 8:00:08 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle

I just spoke to a young man at the Office of the Superintendent of the Flight 93 National Memorial. (814) 443-4557.

There have been several threads here at FR regarding the proposed Islam Crescent at the memorial. Like the rest of you, I am appalled that such a symbol would even be considered.

I decided to do something about it. Sunday evening I faxed my objection to them in writing. It was a one page fax, and was a page printed from FR which showed the Crescent. Beside the picture I wrote my name, phone etc, and voiced my objections. The fax number is 814-443-2180.

This morning I called and spoke to the man who answered the phone. He was very professional, I was polite. I gave him my name, and then spelled it to make sure he got it right. I then said “I’m called to voice my objection to the use of the Islamic Crescent at the Flight 93 Memorial” He replied that he would make note of it and make sure that it was passed along. He then asked if there was anything more that I wanted to say. (Note to callers: RESISIT the urge to unload at this point, doing so will negate the effectiveness of your call) I said I was appalled that anyone would even consider that symbol at the memorial. I continued to say that the people responsible should be fired. He said he would pass that along also.

He then asked me for my phone number, which I gave.

Will our calls make a difference? I don’t know, but I knew NOT calling isn’t going to change things.


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To: chris_in_nj

I agree Chris, it seems that people are making mountains out of molehills and seeing boogey men everywhere and in everything.

My condolences on the loss of your Dad.


81 posted on 09/14/2005 1:13:19 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Thank you, I was going to make that post. I appreciate your doing that for me.


82 posted on 09/14/2005 1:15:57 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass
No problem. I have relatives in South Carolina and have had the pleasure of visiting the state many times. The flag has always been one of my favorites and.....I knew the crescent had nothing to do with Islam! :-) But, to tell you the truth, this account of the flag's origins is a little different from what I have heard. I think I recall that the crescent had something to do with some military operations during the War of Independence that were helped by the fact that the moon was out that night. Or do I just think I remember that?
83 posted on 09/14/2005 1:26:10 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican ( An honorary member of the ruthless, sybaritic, power player elite)
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To: All

(B)(I)The reason the circle of trees is not completed, he said, is because it was severed by the path of Flight 93. From that opening, visitors will be able to gaze down on what has been called the "Sacred Ground," where some of the remains of the passengers and crew still rest.(/B)(/I)


84 posted on 09/14/2005 1:30:23 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: kitkat

That's not what they are talking about - state symbols per se that is. They are trying to insinuate that my state flag is Muslim.

They are making moutains out of molehills. If the extremists have their way everything that is semi-circular or an arch will be razed. Geeze, how pathetic.


85 posted on 09/14/2005 1:33:20 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: narby

Oh for Heavens sake. If you had done any research you would that the broken circle is their because that is where Flight 93 came in.


86 posted on 09/14/2005 1:34:44 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: alarm rider

Go to Google and do some research. Don't just depend on what you read here. You might be surprised at what you find - "The reason the circle of trees is not completed, he said, is because it was severed by the path of Flight 93. From that opening, visitors will be able to gaze down on what has been called the "Sacred Ground," where some of the remains of the passengers and crew still rest."


87 posted on 09/14/2005 1:36:22 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: upchuck

I saw it. It ticks me off that people - grown people can be so stupid and such idiots and not do any research. Bots, sheeple, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!! I am MADDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!


88 posted on 09/14/2005 1:37:53 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: TaxRelief

The cresent on the flag of South Carolina (which they are talking about in that post) IS NOT AN ISLAMIC SYMBOL!!


89 posted on 09/14/2005 1:39:33 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: cambridge
Is it realy an Islamic Crescent?

Does it matter? Would you accept a gift from the Navajo tribe to the National Holocaust museum of a "Swastika of Embrace"? How about Scottish-donated a "Fiery Cross of Embrace" for the National African-American Museum?

90 posted on 09/14/2005 1:45:00 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Samwise; All

OH FOR HEAVENS SAKE! GROW UP AND STOP MAKING MOUNTAINS OUT OF MOLEHILLS AND LEAVE MY STATE OUT OF YOUR MANIA. MY FLAG DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY ISLAMIC SYMBOLS AND I WILL NOT HAVE IT DEFLAMED AND DESCRATED BY YOUR CHILDISH ATTITUDES. EXTREMISM IS WRONG NO MATTER WHICH SIDE IT IS ON, OURS OR THEIRS.


91 posted on 09/14/2005 1:45:14 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: Balding_Eagle
The crescent is to me not the ptoblem. I worry whether there will be any treatment of this not as a "tragedy" but as Americans fighting back. As usual, Mark Steyn said it best. He quotes a UPI reporter, who said back then that "[t]he Era of Osama lasted about an hour and a half or so, from the time the first plane hit the tower to the moment the General Militia of Flight 93 reported for duty."

I'm concerned not about what the memorial is, but what it is not. It should be a tribute to Todd Beamer and the others who sacrificed to save the White House, the Congress, the whole government chain of command. A tribute to taking the fight to the enemy on the first day, not a simple mourning of passengers' deaths.

92 posted on 09/14/2005 1:47:29 PM PDT by untenured (http://futureuncertain.blogspot.com)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

No, that is one story. I'll try and find the reference and post it for you.


93 posted on 09/14/2005 1:47:33 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass
If you had done any research you would that the broken circle

It's not a "broken circle". The designers called it a "crescent", and that's what it is.

In the US, the major relief organization is the "Red Cross". In Islamic countries, it's the "Red Crescent", the crescent being equivalent to a Christian Cross as the primary symbol of their religion.

But in any event, the motivations of the designers is irrelevant. The Islamic radicals that perpetrated this heinous crime will believe that this is a huge victory. The design MUST be changed, lest we reward terrorism and encourage their continued violence.

94 posted on 09/14/2005 1:47:51 PM PDT by narby
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To: narby

So what if it is in the shape of a cresent. I will ask again are we not to use the letter "C" which is a cresent? Are we not to aid the NO victims of the flood because the live in the Cresent City. Are we supposed to destroy the jewelry we have that is in the shape of a cresent. Do you want to destroy the moon because it is in the shape of cresent? Do you want to take down the Washinton Monument because it is tall, has windows at the top and looks like a minuret? Architecture is architecture and landscaping is landscaping. If we start doing everything to be "politically correct" we are becoming just like the democrats and other liberal groups who insist of political correctness in everything and want their sheeple the same way.


95 posted on 09/14/2005 1:54:28 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: narby

Yeah, they are going to believe it because of post like this one that make a big deal out of nothing.


96 posted on 09/14/2005 1:56:43 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass
Of course, the state flag does not represent Islam and I did not say that it did. But in a post 9/11 world when radical Islamists have declared war on America, using a crescent at the plane crash site where America first fought back is inappropriate. When your flag was designed, there was no Islamic attack on America. Disagree if you want, but there is no need to be rude.
97 posted on 09/14/2005 1:57:21 PM PDT by Samwise ("You have the nerve to say that terrorism is caused by resisting it?")
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To: dixie sass
What part of "Islamic radicals that perpetrated this heinous crime will believe that this is a huge victory" don't you understand?

I'll stipulate that the shape of this thing may have zero relationship to Islam. But still the controversy is out there in public, and I understand that Islamic media has already discovered it and publicized it as a victory.

The design must be changed. Terrorism must not have a final victory on Flight 93, even if it is only in their imagination.

Bottom line, if the designers that spent so much time and money on this didn't realize that it would be seen by the Islamic world as a victory, then they are very stupid people.

98 posted on 09/14/2005 2:00:43 PM PDT by narby
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To: TaxRelief
The red crescent is oriented towards Mecca.

I don't mind the cresent idea if it is properly executed.

For example, let's designate a doggie walking area, plant one bush for each hijacker, trim them into cresents, and let nature take its course.

99 posted on 09/14/2005 2:09:00 PM PDT by aBootes
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To: dixie sass
By the way. The South Carolina flag may have to be changed as well.

Prior to 1933, the swastika was a very common symbol in New Mexico, and often found on Navajo rugs. I have a 1920's era road map of Arizona and New Mexico, and the border around the map is made of swastikas.

The Navajo and adjoining states completely abandoned the swastika after Hitlers day.

If, as I suspect, terrorism continues long enough to be inextricably associated with Islam, South Carolina may have to change it's flag.

It's unfortunate, but it will probably be popularly decided within South Carolina.

100 posted on 09/14/2005 2:14:56 PM PDT by narby
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