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322nd Anniversary of "The Battle of Vienna" (Polish king saves Europe from Islam)
http://campus.northpark.edu/history/WebChron/EastEurope/ViennaSiege.html ^

Posted on 09/12/2005 5:06:39 PM PDT by bummerdude

One of the most important battles of the 17th century was the Battle of Vienna, which was fought on September 12, 1683... This victory freed Europe from the Ottoman Turks and their invasions and secured Christianity as the main religion in all of Europe.

(Excerpt) Read more at campus.northpark.edu ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: austria; christian; europe; godsgravesglyphs; hungary; islam; muslim; ottoman; poland; turk; vienna
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To: Grzegorz 246

Hitler would be born anyway but in Muslim version :)


41 posted on 09/13/2005 1:55:54 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: dangus
What was your Tartar source?

15,000 Tartars

p.s. Just as a guess, I'd say the French might have been allied with the turks.

42 posted on 09/13/2005 4:24:04 AM PDT by F-117A
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To: F-117A

Make that Tatars, not Tartars.


43 posted on 09/13/2005 4:25:29 AM PDT by F-117A
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To: spanalot

Great story!!!


44 posted on 09/13/2005 4:33:28 AM PDT by dennisw (***)
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To: bummerdude
It has been a long war, but victory can be had within the lives of some now living.
Jan III Sobieski, and his people relieve viena, 1683AD.

Tours, 732AD, Charles Martel, called The Hammer, and his people.

The Seige of Malta in 1564 led by the Grandmaster of the Knights Hopitaller of Saint John, the seventy two year old fighter against moslems for every one of his years... Jean la Vallette,and his people repelled the huge attack of Suleiman at Malta. Jean had 500 Knghts, and Suleiman had 40,000 men and 200 ships. Victory was had.

The Naval Battle of Lepanto (1571)where Don John of Austria and Spain led the fight, 70,000 Christians against the invader and to Victory. Of his 70,000 men 24,000 were killed or wounded.

The long defense of Constantinople by the Empire, from 717AD to 1453AD. Those people fought.

The business has been going on for a thousand years. Nearly 1,300 years. Right now we are closer to victory than at any time. We can win, and disable this scourge. The true enemy is not Arabic or Persian but Leftist here in the USA.
45 posted on 09/13/2005 4:50:15 AM PDT by Iris7 ("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
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To: Cincinnatus

I didn't know that, about the black madonna banner. Thanks for adding that. VERY cool. We just have to keep telling the wonderful history of Western Civ; the know-nothings abound.


46 posted on 09/13/2005 6:22:34 AM PDT by bboop (Facts are your friend.)
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To: Thane_Banquo

I REALLY like your tagline, Thane.


47 posted on 09/13/2005 6:23:33 AM PDT by bboop (Facts are your friend.)
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To: F-117A

And this one goes to my homepage gallery :)


48 posted on 09/13/2005 8:42:47 AM PDT by macel
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To: SkiPole18; curiosity; x5452; pravoslav; anonymoussierra; Robert Drobot; sharkhawk; ...
Eastern European ping list


FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

49 posted on 09/13/2005 9:21:59 AM PDT by lizol
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To: F-117A
p.s. Just as a guess, I'd say the French might have been allied with the turks

Ding, Ding, Ding, we have a winner. The french were often allied with the Turks, against the rest of Christian Europe.

50 posted on 09/13/2005 9:29:37 AM PDT by sharkhawk
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To: bummerdude
Sobieski would be labeled a jihadist in America.

Can you imagine a Western leader saying anything remotely like this today:

"...to proceed to the Holy War, and with God's help to give back the old freedom to besieged Vienna, and thereby help wavering Christendom."

Instead, the ACLU would file suits out the wahab on the grounds of discrimination. CAIR would say that the land was originally Muslim anyway. Shreiking libs would publicly call for that leader's removal while calling for his execution on the Internet through sites like the Democratic Underground. Republicans would waffle, and ultimately cave under the pressure.

Thank God that there were men like Jan Sobieski. May God continue to bless Poland.
51 posted on 09/13/2005 9:31:28 AM PDT by Das Outsider ("Tabbâq spawns endless oblations...For the white togas of a modern Rome..." ~Q)
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To: bummerdude

Poles saved Europe from Bolshevism in 1920 as well.


52 posted on 09/13/2005 9:32:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: bboop

Pay the jihadists back on the days they hold sacred. How about cleaning all their clocks for Ramalamadingdong? Allahu fubar!


53 posted on 09/13/2005 9:45:27 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: dts32041

TROP is cancerous. Repeated treatments were necessary.


54 posted on 09/13/2005 9:46:18 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sharkhawk

The French were known as "great friends of the Turks".


55 posted on 09/13/2005 9:50:09 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: bummerdude

HUGE BUMP!
for later


56 posted on 09/13/2005 10:02:57 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: sheik yerbouty
Well, it's paradixical, but after Sobieski taught the Turks the lesson in Vienna they kept having great respect for Poland, and the Poles.

After the Poland got split up between Russia, Prussia and Austria at the end of 18th century - there always was a place waiting for Polish envoy in the Ottoman court in Istanbul.
During formal receptions for diplomats given by sultans of Turkey herald always announced: "The envoy from Lechistan ("Poland" in old-Turkish) hasn't come yet!".

Imagine how Russian or German envoys felt then.
57 posted on 09/13/2005 10:56:22 AM PDT by lizol
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Ping for Victoria! The entire article is copied within the thread. No need to go to the web site it came from. That site is a little confusing. Note the date this occurred on!
58 posted on 09/13/2005 11:05:59 AM PDT by warsaw44
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To: sheik yerbouty

Can't believe there have been no pix of vienna sausages or polish sausages yet....


59 posted on 09/13/2005 11:11:18 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (There is no restraining men's tongues or pens when charged with a little vanity. ~ George Washington)
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To: dfwgator
Very true. A war almost no one knows anything about. The Poles thrashed the Soviets.
60 posted on 09/13/2005 11:11:54 AM PDT by warsaw44
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