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322nd Anniversary of "The Battle of Vienna" (Polish king saves Europe from Islam)
http://campus.northpark.edu/history/WebChron/EastEurope/ViennaSiege.html ^
Posted on 09/12/2005 5:06:39 PM PDT by bummerdude
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To: Grzegorz 246
Hitler would be born anyway but in Muslim version :)
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posted on
09/13/2005 1:55:54 AM PDT
by
Lukasz
To: dangus
What was your Tartar source?15,000 Tartars
p.s. Just as a guess, I'd say the French might have been allied with the turks.
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posted on
09/13/2005 4:24:04 AM PDT
by
F-117A
To: F-117A
Make that Tatars, not Tartars.
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posted on
09/13/2005 4:25:29 AM PDT
by
F-117A
To: spanalot
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posted on
09/13/2005 4:33:28 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(***)
To: bummerdude
It has been a long war, but victory can be had within the lives of some now living.
Jan III Sobieski, and his people relieve viena, 1683AD.
Tours, 732AD, Charles Martel, called The Hammer, and his people.
The Seige of Malta in 1564 led by the Grandmaster of the Knights Hopitaller of Saint John, the seventy two year old fighter against moslems for every one of his years... Jean la Vallette,and his people repelled the huge attack of Suleiman at Malta. Jean had 500 Knghts, and Suleiman had 40,000 men and 200 ships. Victory was had.
The Naval Battle of Lepanto (1571)where Don John of Austria and Spain led the fight, 70,000 Christians against the invader and to Victory. Of his 70,000 men 24,000 were killed or wounded.
The long defense of Constantinople by the Empire, from 717AD to 1453AD. Those people fought.
The business has been going on for a thousand years. Nearly 1,300 years. Right now we are closer to victory than at any time. We can win, and disable this scourge. The true enemy is not Arabic or Persian but Leftist here in the USA.
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posted on
09/13/2005 4:50:15 AM PDT
by
Iris7
("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
To: Cincinnatus
I didn't know that, about the black madonna banner. Thanks for adding that. VERY cool. We just have to keep telling the wonderful history of Western Civ; the know-nothings abound.
46
posted on
09/13/2005 6:22:34 AM PDT
by
bboop
(Facts are your friend.)
To: Thane_Banquo
I REALLY like your tagline, Thane.
47
posted on
09/13/2005 6:23:33 AM PDT
by
bboop
(Facts are your friend.)
To: F-117A
And this one goes to my homepage gallery :)
48
posted on
09/13/2005 8:42:47 AM PDT
by
macel
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posted on
09/13/2005 9:21:59 AM PDT
by
lizol
To: F-117A
p.s. Just as a guess, I'd say the French might have been allied with the turksDing, Ding, Ding, we have a winner. The french were often allied with the Turks, against the rest of Christian Europe.
To: bummerdude
Sobieski would be labeled a jihadist in America.
Can you imagine a Western leader saying anything remotely like this today:
"...to proceed to the Holy War, and with God's help to give back the old freedom to besieged Vienna, and thereby help wavering Christendom."
Instead, the ACLU would file suits out the wahab on the grounds of discrimination. CAIR would say that the land was originally Muslim anyway. Shreiking libs would publicly call for that leader's removal while calling for his execution on the Internet through sites like the Democratic Underground. Republicans would waffle, and ultimately cave under the pressure.
Thank God that there were men like Jan Sobieski. May God continue to bless Poland.
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posted on
09/13/2005 9:31:28 AM PDT
by
Das Outsider
("Tabbâq spawns endless oblations...For the white togas of a modern Rome..." ~Q)
To: bummerdude
Poles saved Europe from Bolshevism in 1920 as well.
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posted on
09/13/2005 9:32:38 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: bboop
Pay the jihadists back on the days they hold sacred. How about cleaning all their clocks for Ramalamadingdong? Allahu fubar!
53
posted on
09/13/2005 9:45:27 AM PDT
by
sheik yerbouty
( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
To: dts32041
TROP is cancerous. Repeated treatments were necessary.
54
posted on
09/13/2005 9:46:18 AM PDT
by
sheik yerbouty
( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
To: sharkhawk
The French were known as "great friends of the Turks".
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posted on
09/13/2005 9:50:09 AM PDT
by
sheik yerbouty
( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
To: bummerdude
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posted on
09/13/2005 10:02:57 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
To: sheik yerbouty
Well, it's paradixical, but after Sobieski taught the Turks the lesson in Vienna they kept having great respect for Poland, and the Poles.
After the Poland got split up between Russia, Prussia and Austria at the end of 18th century - there always was a place waiting for Polish envoy in the Ottoman court in Istanbul.
During formal receptions for diplomats given by sultans of Turkey herald always announced: "The envoy from Lechistan ("Poland" in old-Turkish) hasn't come yet!".
Imagine how Russian or German envoys felt then.
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posted on
09/13/2005 10:56:22 AM PDT
by
lizol
To: Victoria Delsoul
Ping for Victoria! The entire article is copied within the thread. No need to go to the web site it came from. That site is a little confusing. Note the date this occurred on!
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posted on
09/13/2005 11:05:59 AM PDT
by
warsaw44
To: sheik yerbouty
Can't believe there have been no pix of vienna sausages or polish sausages yet....
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posted on
09/13/2005 11:11:18 AM PDT
by
Liberty Valance
(There is no restraining men's tongues or pens when charged with a little vanity. ~ George Washington)
To: dfwgator
Very true. A war almost no one knows anything about. The Poles thrashed the Soviets.
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posted on
09/13/2005 11:11:54 AM PDT
by
warsaw44
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