Posted on 09/11/2005 2:28:14 PM PDT by billorites
In 1998 a scientist at the California Institute of Technology discovered a gene that could extend the life of fruit flies by 30%. He dubbed it the Methuselah gene after the Biblical prophet who lived to 969. Now a self-taught gerontologist believes our mortality could one day be similarly extended. At a conference at Queen's College, Cambridge, this week, Aubrey de Grey, a 41-year-old Cambridge computer scientist, told a research audience that there was no reason why people should not live to 1,000. It sounds like science fiction, but for all that Dr de Grey has been dismissed as a crank, his papers continue to be published in peer-reviewed journals and scientists continue to flock to his meetings. The editor of the MIT Technology Review has gone so far as to offer a $20,000 (£11,000) prize to any gerontologist who could put together a serious argument refuting his claims. So far there have been no takers. According to Dr de Grey, such attacks are to be expected. "Traditionally, mainstream gerontologists have preferred to talk about compressing morbidity, but longevity is becoming impossible to avoid," he says. Dr de Grey, whose day job includes investigating the fruit fly genome, says it is simply a matter of living long enough to take advantage of biotechnology therapies which promise to reverse the tissue damage that comes with age. He calls his doctrine Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence, or Sens for short. He has identified seven deadly aspects of ageing, ranging from frayed DNA molecules to tangled proteins that interfere with neurons, sparking Parkinson's and Alzheimer's, to defects in mitochondria, the intracellular structures that power the cell and are vital to the control of free radicals involved in neuromuscular and other diseases. Some of Dr de Grey's solutions, such as using stem cells to engineer new tissues, organs and nerve cells, are already in the works. But his most inventive contribution has been to propose radical solutions. One of these is a body-wide rubbish removal program that would clean up the junk that tends to accumulate inside cells by implanting in people genes from soil bacteria that have the ability to metabolise waste. But to get to the stage where such interventions are feasible will require a huge research commitment. That is why, in a bid to convince the world that he is really on to something, Dr de Grey is offering a Methuselah Mouse prize of $160,000 to the first scientist who succeeds in extending the lifespan of an adult mouse from two to five - the equivalent, in human terms, of going from 80 to 150. "At the moment the public and many gerontologists tend to put increased longevity in the same bracket as transponder beams - in other words, science fiction," admits Dr de Grey. "But once we meet the robust mouse test I predict scientists will fall in behind my theories and the public will insist politicians make these therapies available to everyone." Millions are poured into research each year to counter the deleterious effects of ageing, with some scientists hoping that stem cells hold the key. However far-fetched Dr de Grey's theories, others at the conference were also offering solutions to the effects of ageing. Michael West, the chief executive of the US biotech company Advanced Cell Technology and a world authority on human therapeutic cloning, presented a paper on how in the near future human somatic cells could be reprogrammed to treat neurodegenerative disorders such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. And Ronald Kahn, professor of medicine at Harvard and the director of the Joslin diabetes research centre, described how his team were zeroing in on the secrets of the Klotho gene, yet another anti-ageing gene that has been shown to keep mice alive 30% longer than normal. Others are more cautious of the grand sweep of Dr de Grey's claims. "There's no doubt that Aubrey is an interesting guy but I don't buy a lot of his hyperbole," says David Finkelstein, the program director of the US National Institute of Ageing. "Some of the extrapolations from animal experiments are frankly silly. Just because something works for a mouse that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to work for us." Five bars to immortality Signs of ageing and their solutions or cures, according to Aubrey de Grey 1 Cell depletion This happens in important tissues, including the heart and brain Cure Treat primarily by introducing growth factors to stimulate cell division or by periodic transfusion of stem cells engineered to replace the types that have been lost 2 Unwanted cells In later years fat cells proliferate and replace muscle, sparking diabetes and heart disease Cure Receptors on surface of such cells are susceptible to immune bodies that scientists will learn how to generate 3 Chromosome mutations Immortality of cancer cells is related to the behaviour of the telomere, the caplike structure found on the end of every chromosome, which decreases in length each time the cell divides Cure Engineer cells so they no longer carry the gene for telomeres, thus stopping tumour from dividing. De Grey would also replace a person's stem cells every 10 years 4 Mitochondria mutations Mitochondria are the tiny machines that power the cell Cure Copy genes from the mitochondrial DNA and put them into the DNA of the nucleus, where they will be safer from mutation-causing influences 5 Accumulation of 'junk' within the cell As cells digest large molecules, the waste accumulates in intracellular structures called lysosomes. Atherosclerosis, hardening of the arteries, is biggest manifestation. Cure De Grey proposes inserting genes from soil bacteria, which break down waste, into the lysosomes
People are living too long now. Look at all the stooped over, barely-walking, wrinkled, bald old people around and you'll get a hint of it. They're walking drug stores, some of them, and that's just plain not natural. Doesn't matter what your mind or spirit is like, your body will die all the same.
Well yeah, . . . . that too . . . looking down at the ground . . . .kicking rocks . . . . but the Tree of Life needed water see . . . voice trailing off . . .
Sounds like a plan. There's nothing wrong with my life, particularly, but I think I'll be ready for it to be over in another 50 years or so :-).
Oh joy! I can't wait for the day when its a civil right for all the useless welfare deadbeats to live forever at somebody else's expense.
I'm curious about the next chapter, anyway. Those of us, and I know you are one, who believe in God don't fear what comes next.
I'm with you for about 99 yrs or whenever I can no longer "git up and go."
LOL! I have a friend whose husband says he wants to go when he's "sex-dead"!
No, that's right. I was thinking about my last post, and I realized that there are quite a few things wrong with my life, because there is something wrong with me, and my husband, my parents, my kids, my neighbors, etc. That something is Sin, which is why life in this world can never be all we hope for.
Either we will die and see the Lord, or He will return and restore the Creation to the perfection God intended. Whatever happens, it won't be the "same old thing" for 1,000 years, and I'm very happy about that!
My grandpop said he was ready to die when he was too sick to hunt anymore!
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
Didn't Noah know Lamech, who of course knew his father Methuselah, who knew Adam?
You give us all hope! Let us know how the second 75 go.
Currently every year you live, your life expectancy goes *up* 0.5 years. Including my rather robust genetic history (males in my family usually live until their late 80's), I can expect to make it to at least 2055 if not 2080. Technology might be pretty good by then.
If I stop crashing motorcycles and pissing of Kazakhstani traffic cops, that is.
I am really enjoying my 50's, I enjoyed my 40's and I am looking forward to the rest of my life. I am glad to have met my grandchildren and really don't see why I should want more life than what I was born with.
…we can live for ever
Give me 99 good years, death in my sleep and a free pass at the pearly gates.
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