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Ditch Holocaust day, advisers urge Blair
Sunday Times - UK ^ | 11 sep 05 | Abul Taher

Posted on 09/11/2005 5:49:27 AM PDT by white trash redneck

ADVISERS appointed by Tony Blair after the London bombings are proposing to scrap the Jewish Holocaust Memorial Day because it is regarded as offensive to Muslims.

They want to replace it with a Genocide Day that would recognise the mass murder of Muslims in Palestine, Chechnya and Bosnia as well as people of other faiths.

The draft proposals have been prepared by committees appointed by Blair to tackle extremism. He has promised to respond to the plans, but the threat to the Holocaust Day has provoked a fierce backlash from the Jewish community.

Holocaust Day was established by Blair in 2001 after a sustained campaign by Jewish leaders to create a lasting memorial to the 6m victims of Hitler. It is marked each year on January 27.

The Queen is patron of the charity that organises the event and the Home Office pays £500,000 a year to fund it. The committees argue that the special status of Holocaust Memorial Day fuels extremists’ sense of alienation because it “excludes” Muslims.

A member of one of the committees, made up of Muslims, said it gave the impression that “western lives have more value than non-western lives”. That perception needed to be changed. “One way of doing that is if the government were to sponsor a national Genocide Memorial Day.

“The very name Holocaust Memorial Day sounds too exclusive to many young Muslims. It sends out the wrong signals: that the lives of one people are to be remembered more than others. It’s a grievance that extremists are able to exploit.”

The recommendation, drawn up by four committees including those dealing with imams and mosques, and Islamaphobia and policing, has the backing of Sir Iqbal Sacranie, secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain.

He said: “The message of the Holocaust was ‘never again’, and for that message to have practical effect on the world community it has to be inclusive. We can never have double standards in terms of human life. Muslims feel hurt and excluded that their lives are not equally valuable to those lives lost in the Holocaust time.”

Ibrahim Hewitt, chairman of the charity Interpal, said: “There are 500 Palestinian towns and villages that have been wiped out over the years. That’s pretty genocidal to me.”

The committees are also set to clash with Blair on his proposal to ban Hizb ut-Tahrir, the radical Islamic group. Government sources say they will argue that a ban is unjustified because the group, which is proscribed in much of the Middle East, neither advocates nor perpetrates violence in the UK.

A Home Office spokesman said it would consider the proposals for a separate Genocide Day for all faiths but emphasised that it regarded the Holocaust as a “defining tragedy in European history”.

Mike Whine, a director of the British Board of Deputies, said: “Of course we will oppose this move. The whole point is to remember the darkest day of modern history.”

Louise Ellman, Labour MP for Liverpool Riverside and a Holocaust Memorial trustee, said: “These Muslim groups should stop trying to evade the enormity of the Holocaust.”

The seven committees finalise their recommendations today at St George’s House, Windsor, and will submit them to Blair and Charles Clarke, the home secretary, on September 22.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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To: Eastbound

Geez, I feel so redundant today.


21 posted on 09/11/2005 7:52:14 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

"...scrap the Jewish Holocaust Memorial Day because it is regarded as offensive to Muslims..."

That's OK, we're apparently giving them one in Schenksville, Pa instead, the "Crescent of Embrace".

(Disgusting and must not be permitted to happen. Same goes for the "International Freedom Center". Another outrage.)


22 posted on 09/11/2005 8:33:59 AM PDT by ncphinsfan
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To: white trash redneck
I think we should add to the Holocaust memorial, the defeat of the Muslims by Charles Martel at Tours. Western civilization was saved.

FYI, From 711 Muslim forces crossed the Straits of Gibraltar, conquered the Visigothic Kingdom, and in less than a decade crossed the Pyrenees. In 732, under the command of Abd-er- rahman, they were decisively defeated by Charles Martel and the Franks at the Battle of Poitiers [or Tours].
23 posted on 09/11/2005 9:35:02 AM PDT by playball0
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To: white trash redneck

This is terminally tragic advice. If he takes it, GB will be taking one more step toward annihilation. Seriously.


24 posted on 09/11/2005 9:40:39 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: Bigh4u2

Muslims were accomplices in the Holocaust. Why let them emmigrate when there would still be a "Jewish problem" in the world?

25 posted on 09/11/2005 10:11:20 AM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: ncjetsfan

If we are not vigilant, there will one day be a mosque built on that "holy site" in Pennsylvania.


26 posted on 09/11/2005 10:12:28 AM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: white trash redneck
I think Muslims are offended by everything. Perhaps they should just scrap VE day as well --- it would make as much sense.
27 posted on 09/11/2005 10:15:02 AM PDT by Leapofaith (I stole this tagline from Radix --- don't tell)
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To: Ukiapah Heep
Ask the Imam:

many muslims priase Hitler for killing jews, shoud they or are they wrong. (Question 1554 from Other Country/Island)

Answer 1554 2001-04-19

Islam has ordered us Muslims to fight against the enemies of Islam and not be like the Jew and make other nations fight their wars. We as Muslims may share in Hitlers hatered for the Jews but we cannot praise him for the manner in which he went about killing the jews (if the history books are correct). But rather we as Muslims are governed by the Shariah which prohibit the killing the old and the weak etc.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.

Emphasis mine, raw antisemitism from a "knowledgable" Imam theirs.

28 posted on 09/11/2005 10:15:50 AM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine
London Muslims “Celebrate” 9/11 - Jihadist mullahs urge 1,000 followers to learn the murderous lessons of the WTC attack. | 11 September 2002
29 posted on 09/11/2005 10:19:21 AM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: hershey

Muslim clerics remind me of Dr Zaius in Planet of the Apes who protects the faithful from being exposed to the "Forbidden Zone" where they might see evidence of earlier civilizations.


30 posted on 09/11/2005 10:22:00 AM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: white trash redneck
“The very name Holocaust Memorial Day sounds too exclusive to many young Muslims. It sends out the wrong signals: that the lives of one people are to be remembered more than others. It’s a grievance that extremists are able to exploit.”

Why not just have "Remembrance Day"? If anyone ever done you wrong (personally or emotionally, slighted you or physically scarred you or your family or your ancestors or people like you or people unlike you...) we can all sit around and say "That's a shame" for 15 seconds and then go about our lives.

If "extremists" can "exploit" being left out of Holocaust Day, perhaps we need to be investigating just what these extremists are talking about in retaliation.

Should there be militant recruiting videos in British mosques?

31 posted on 09/11/2005 10:28:03 AM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: white trash redneck
Ibrahim Hewitt, chairman of the charity Interpal, said: “There are 500 Palestinian towns and villages that have been wiped out over the years. That’s pretty genocidal to me.”

What about the 950,000 Jews expelled from Arab lands over the past 75 years?

32 posted on 09/11/2005 10:54:12 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Bigh4u2
And just how many MUSLIMS did Hitler put in concentration camps and gas and burn to death?

Answer: NONE.

And just how many Muslims served the Nazi's murderous SS? Tens of thousands.

33 posted on 09/11/2005 10:58:32 AM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

About 40,000 Muslims served the SS in Yugoslavia.
Hitler also had Indian (Hindu/Sikh troops), btw - only a few, though..
By far the majority of the many thousands of non-German SS troops were (at least nominally) Christian, right-wing and anti-Communist - rather like FReepers, in fact...


34 posted on 09/12/2005 4:55:37 AM PDT by ukman
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To: ukman

Give yourself a Hanjar..


35 posted on 09/12/2005 8:03:59 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Alouette; JohnHuang2; me_newswire; SJackson; yonif

and...

Don't teach hatred to children: Blair
Times of India | 8/8/05 | IANS
Posted on 09/08/2005 12:13:21 PM PDT by voletti
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1480395/posts


36 posted on 09/18/2005 7:40:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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