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Transcript: Pathologist Michael Baden w/Van Susteren (NOLA - Disease / Evacuations)
FoxNews - Transcribed by DoughtyOne | 09/09/2005 | Baden / Van Susteren

Posted on 09/10/2005 10:50:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne

FoxNews - on the Record w/Greta Van Susteren

September 9th, 2005

Transcript of an interview with Michael Baden, renowned Forensic Pathologist.


Van Susteren /
Baden

Officials say the grim job of collecting and identifying the dead could take months.  Are the dead bodies dangerous to those now collecting them?  And how do you give the person dignity in death under these circumstances?  And what about disease or even mosquitoes?  Joining us live in New York is Forensic Pathologist Doctor Michael Baden.

Hi Gretta.  Doc...

Good evening Doctor Baden.

Doctor Baden, earlier in the show Trace Gallager my colleague talked about the mosquitoes that have now descended upon New Orleans once again having been swept away by the storm.  What's the problem with mosquitoes pose?

The mosquitoes can carry West Nile Virus and some of the encephalitis diseases, but that's the reason they should have been spraying for mosquitoes days ago.  I think it's an outrage that they haven't started aerial spraying for mosquitoes, which is something that is commonly done even when there aren't hurricanes in New Orleans because of the breading grounds there.

I think that the the focus on toxic water is is misinformed.  That water isn't toxic unless you drink it.  People walking through water, the worst they can get is a rash or something, and dragging people out of their homes because of toxic water ah I think is is wrong and squandering manpower.  I have a number of doctor friends, ah including the former Health Commissioner in a New Orleans, who moved back into their homes in a New Orleans.  Ah so ah getting people out is just a waste of time and it's based on misinformation.

Unintelligible word you say that the mosquitoes can carry West Nile, ah can meaning like one in a billion or common, I mean like how serious a problem is this?

Oh it can... remember they sprayed New York city a couple of years ago for West... the whole city of New York was sprayed because of ah ah ah the mosquitoes carrying West Nile.  What has to happen is it has to be a conjunction between the mosquitoes and birds and the viruses ah can cause a serious problem ah in ah ah ah...

When you say serious, ten being the most serious like Oh my God we've got to got to do something right now and one being like do ya know well it's not that important unintelligible...

Oh no, the easiest thing now is have the Army go out, they have helicopters and they can very rapidly spray the city at very ah ah little cost and a it's an ideal time to spray.  There's nobody there even though the sprays themselves don't harm people and I think they they can be dozens or ah you know ah hundreds of cases depending on the circumstances.  It won't be thousands of cases.  But ah, it's a serious condition, other cities have been sprayed with less of ah a ah ah potential for danger.

Alright, we only have thirty seconds left Doctor Baden.  If ah people are going down to New Orleans they need shots?

No, they don't... they don't have Tetanus in New Orleans.  Tetanus ah and Hepatitis if they don't treat the water... ah I've been advised by my colleagues in New Orleans that ah ah at this time Tetanus and Hepatitis ah immunizations are unnecessary even though they're being given out and all that ah... and Typhoid is unnecessary also.  It gives you a sore arm.

Alright Doctor Baden, thank you sir.

Thank you.

Transcribed by D1


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: disease; encephalitis; evacuation; hepatitis; mosquitoes; tetanus; typhoid
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To: BurbankKarl

From reading on the forum, it's obvious Bush hates the Vietnamese also...


21 posted on 09/10/2005 11:13:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree. If 40% of NO is dry, it certainly seems like over-kill to remove everyone.


22 posted on 09/10/2005 11:14:19 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Steven Wright: "So what's the speed of dark?")
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To: DoughtyOne
toxic water is is misinformed.

I don't think so. Underground tanks are leaking gasoline all over NO. It'll be a looooong time before it gets rebuilt. It will be like a huge Love Canal superfund site.

23 posted on 09/10/2005 11:15:10 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (If you right click on Madeline Albright's image, my name should show up!)
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To: DoughtyOne

"And how do you give the person dignity in death "

Sorry - in emergencies with massive deaths - dignity is a mass funeral pyre. The only medically sound choice.

The only other choice would to give some practical use to the Kennedy/Kerry "Big Dig" in Boston.

Place all the bodies in there and seal it. Save money!


24 posted on 09/10/2005 11:15:16 AM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.sigmaitsys.com)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

It does doesn't it.

If they're concerned about disease, remove the bodies and leave folks in their homes alone.


25 posted on 09/10/2005 11:16:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas
City sewage backed up into my brothers' basement in Golden Colorado several years ago. The family NEVER went into the basement, only the professionals, but: The whole family is tested every 6 months for HIV.

That is one strange and unsettling story.

26 posted on 09/10/2005 11:16:44 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Steven Wright: "So what's the speed of dark?")
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To: MadelineZapeezda

While the water is filthy, and that cannot be denied, the idea that it's so bad that folks must evacuate is a stretch of the facts IMO.

I don't think it's going to take months to get the area dry. It will take months and likely years to get things back to normal. Folks will be able to live there if they wish. Again, that's my opinion.


27 posted on 09/10/2005 11:20:47 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: MadelineZapeezda
"Underground tanks are leaking gasoline all over NO"

None of them are, unless someone left the caps off which is extremely doubtful.

28 posted on 09/10/2005 11:21:29 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: DoughtyOne

Why are they forcing people from there homes when the home's are not even near the water? I heard they are confiscating ALL firearm's from the people of NO. Did they never read the second amendment?


29 posted on 09/10/2005 11:22:36 AM PDT by beto
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To: spunkets

Like I said, underground tanks are leaking gasoline.


30 posted on 09/10/2005 11:23:48 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (If you right click on Madeline Albright's image, my name should show up!)
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To: hombre_sincero

In times of natural disaster, dignity is a luxury that doesn't exist. "Dignity"? It's an absurdity to even raise the issue.

As much as possible the bodies should be treated with prudent respect, and identified if possible. Beyond that, the living should be the focus of concern.


31 posted on 09/10/2005 11:24:54 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: MadelineZapeezda
"Like I said, underground tanks are leaking gasoline."

If you knew anything about them, you would not be saying that. You are simply repeating a lie you heard.

32 posted on 09/10/2005 11:26:09 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: beto
I'm not sure what the underlying reason is for forced evacuation. As for the guns, the second amendment is most valued at times like this. When communities are serene, the need for guns is much less than at a time like this.
33 posted on 09/10/2005 11:26:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Oh dear:

I just reread what I wrote, my brother, student at Colorado School of Mines, used the basement for a study and the laundry room was down there. The professionals were the clean up crew.
34 posted on 09/10/2005 11:35:25 AM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (Freeper amom will be reporting live from BRLA)
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To: BurbankKarl

yeah, I got it wrong but I guess that goes to show that Big Time hasn't briefed me in on the chemtrail program. Why just the other day Karl said ... whoops, mustn't let the cat out of the bag ...


35 posted on 09/10/2005 11:37:29 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: Nov3

Bttt!


36 posted on 09/10/2005 11:41:43 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas
You were clear. It just never occurred to me that a backed-up toilet might need HIV testing every six months. Are they still being tested?
37 posted on 09/10/2005 11:56:01 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Steven Wright: "So what's the speed of dark?")
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To: DoughtyOne

" And how do you give the person dignity in death under these circumstances ? "

For starters, you don't allow CNN to broadcast their images.


38 posted on 09/10/2005 11:56:10 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: DoughtyOne
..and Typhoid is unnecessary also. It gives you a sore arm.

Not enough dead guys or disease to impeach Bush. MSM will be deeply saddened.

39 posted on 09/10/2005 12:00:35 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

Where I fault CNN is their spin against Bush and their failure to address the lack of state and local leadership.

I don't honestly know if it's truly respectful to allow all these people to die, yet show none of them on televison.

What is a funeral viewing other than showing a dead corpse to people, albeit they are generally family and friends. I think we may be shortchanging the people who died.

These people suffered terrible circumstances and died, yet we fail to show what happend to them, where they came to rest. I have mixed emotions about sanitizing this too much.

If you struggled for your life, you fought tenatiously to live on, were injured and suffered the ultimate indignity, would you really rather nobody knew of what you went through and where you finally wound up.

I see that as a part of honoring those people. It's acknowledging them and for a brief moment reaching out to them with our attention and condolences. Without seeing that, how can I say that I identify with their deaths individually, not just as a big stat in someone's ledger.

I understand where you're coming from, I'm just not convinced that's the only concern here.


40 posted on 09/10/2005 12:14:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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