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Drudge-Developing: WHITE HOUSE MULLED SEIZING RELIEF MISSION
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Posted on 09/08/2005 6:57:07 PM PDT by sissyjane

Edited on 09/08/2005 11:37:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

>> WHITE HOUSE MULLED SEIZING RELIEF MISSION // Invoke the Insurrection Act? Bush's senior advisers debated last week whether the president should seize control of the chaotic hurricane relief mission from the governor so that active-duty combat troops could be sent to enforce order... Developing

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Political Issues Snarled Plans for Troop Aid

"WASHINGTON, Sept. 8 - As New Orleans descended into chaos last week and Louisiana's governor asked for 40,000 soldiers, President Bush's senior advisers debated whether the president should speed the arrival of active-duty troops by seizing control of the hurricane relief mission from the governor.

For reasons of practicality and politics, officials at the Justice Department and Pentagon, and then at the White House, decided not to urge Mr. Bush to take command of the effort.

Instead, the Washington officials decided to rely on the growing number of National Guard personnel flowing into Louisiana, who were under Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco's control. The debate was triggered as officials began to realize that Hurricane Katrina exposed a critical flaw in the national disaster response plans created after the Sept. 11 attacks. According to the administration's senior homeland security officials, the hurricane showed the failure of their plan to recognize that local police, fire and medical personnel might be incapacitated and unable to act quickly until reinforcements arrive on the scene..."

".. To seize control of the mission, Mr. Bush would have had to invoke the Insurrection Act, which allows the president in times of unrest to command active-duty forces into the states to perform law enforcement duties. But decision makers in Washington felt certain that Governor Blanco would have resisted surrendering control of the military relief mission as Bush Administration officials believe would have been required to deploy active-duty combat forces before law and order had been re-established. While troops can conduct relief missions without the legal authority of the Insurrection Act, Pentagon and military officials say that no active-duty forces could have been sent into the chaos of New Orleans on Wednesday or Thursday without confronting law-and-order challenges......."


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Louisiana; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: blanco; hurricane; incompetence; katrina; katrinafacts; katrinafailures
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To: sissyjane
This isn't really news. I am glad they didn't but sad people had to die because of BLANCO-NAGIN's incompetence and indecision.
41 posted on 09/08/2005 7:06:23 PM PDT by msnimje (CNN - Constant Negative Nonsense)
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To: sissyjane

there would be calls for impeachment right now if this were done.

where the administration made their mistake, was not going political right away - had they started questioning the governor and mayor right at the first sign of this, they would have set the early tone for the explanation of why the federal response was 24 hours late. But our guys don't know how to play gutter politics, and its costing us (to some degree) on the backside, and once again we have to battle from the defensive position.


42 posted on 09/08/2005 7:06:26 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Torie

and particularly when human lives and safety are at stake.


43 posted on 09/08/2005 7:06:37 PM PDT by Torie
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To: SunnySide

I don't think she has yet to declare the state of La an emergency...has she? Or rather order a mandatory evacuation...sorry


44 posted on 09/08/2005 7:06:37 PM PDT by queenkathy (Dear God, I have a problem; it's me.)
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To: Dog Gone
...and that was just that eight hour delay.

Even the Mayor, who messed up himself terribly, has come to the conclusion (either honestly or as a way to try and save his own hide) that the governor's delays, indecision, and bad decisions have cost lives.

45 posted on 09/08/2005 7:06:48 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Torie

Then you shouldn't be living here. Period.


46 posted on 09/08/2005 7:07:15 PM PDT by ShadowDancer (Stupid people make my brain sad.)
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To: Torie
He should have if he thought it would make a real difference.

Tuesday AM we had a clue how big it was - evacuate the remaining citizens in New Orleans, deal with a flooded area big enough to be a great lake, and storm surge and wind damage area large enough to cover England. He should have done it then, but I think it'll come out that the initial assessments provided by local authorities indicated that most people evacuated, most that didn't were in relative safety (on dry land) and that the biggest and saddest action item would be recovery of remains.
47 posted on 09/08/2005 7:07:21 PM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: sissyjane
The idiot Mark Kirk rep, IL. has stated Constitution be damned, the feds should take over all situations like this immediately. What a freakin' moron.
48 posted on 09/08/2005 7:07:26 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Engine82

...or in Alcotraz.


49 posted on 09/08/2005 7:07:28 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Isn't it an irrevocable, undebatable certified decree of Truth that Bush already is the moral equivalent of Hitler?


50 posted on 09/08/2005 7:07:52 PM PDT by dufekin (US Senate: the only place where the majority [D] comprises fewer than the minority [R])
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To: sissyjane

Damn if he did and damned now that he sat in frustration over Blanko's indecisiveness. I think Bush made the right choice in doing the latter.


51 posted on 09/08/2005 7:08:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: sissyjane
I'm going to don my tin foil hat and give another possible reason for Blanco's inaction. It was so President Bush would have to do what amounts to removing a governor's power. Kind of like an "I dare you" from the Dems. Then at some time in the next year, major "spontaneous" civil unrest starts up in another state. Like Florida. The Dems put President Bush on the spot as why he doesn't remove Governor Bush as he did it before in Louisiana.

Then again she could just be stupid or guided by the corrupt.

52 posted on 09/08/2005 7:08:13 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: ShadowDancer

But I will be, and intend to be, until I assume room temperature.


53 posted on 09/08/2005 7:08:18 PM PDT by Torie
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To: oceanview
there would be calls for impeachment right now if this were done.

The sun is up, there are calls for impeachment of Bush. (there's always calls to impeach him.. God help the next president that has liberals in charge of congress... Correction. God help us!)
54 posted on 09/08/2005 7:08:33 PM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: SunnySide
MOst importantly...it has cost lives. See lesson five on thios thread
55 posted on 09/08/2005 7:08:41 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: randita

I believe that is exactly what happened, but as usual the American press is not interested in the truth.


56 posted on 09/08/2005 7:08:57 PM PDT by sissyjane
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To: sissyjane

Then you'd have calls for impeachment.
But not from the "crazies".
End of story.


57 posted on 09/08/2005 7:08:58 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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To: Cicero

I think the legalisms were lost on most people who wanted to see something done.

Nagin was demanding for days that the "chain of command" be cleared up.


58 posted on 09/08/2005 7:09:22 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Wristpin
What does a President do when confronted by corrupt/incompetent local Government during an emergency and american lives are at stake?

He realizes people get the government they voted for & does as much to lessen the consequences as he is legally allowed.

59 posted on 09/08/2005 7:10:08 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Torie
He should have if he thought it would make a real difference.

The calculus is more complex than "make a difference."

The last time a president asserted control without a request from a duly-authorized state agent was the civil war.

60 posted on 09/08/2005 7:10:32 PM PDT by Cboldt
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