Nagin's Failure (Photo of Buses sitting in Water)

http://billhobbs.com/hobbsonline/007188.html ^ | September 2, 2005

[april15Bendovr]

This AP photo shows scores of New Orleans school buses sitting in flood waters after Hurricane Katrina - sitting where they sat instead of being used to evacuate thousands of poor people before Katrina hit.

[rwa265]

Fo shizzle, I-ka-zizzle

[april15Bendovr]

In order to understand the New Orleans tragedy maybe we need to look at the
crime and corruption that existed just before the flood?

Might help people to understand why rescue workers are being shot at by a bunch
of hoodlums.

http://www.policeone.com/pc_print.asp?vid=118176

I remember how organized and civil the evacuation of the twin towers were on 911
that saved so many lives.

Could you imagine rescue workers being shot at at ground zero in NYC?

What happened in New Orleans was un-American and that behavior has been enabled
to long by liberals and the mainstream media in our country. Just view the
disgusting foul lyrics by Kayne West and how they decided to be allied with him
after the flood with his comments?

I believe there will always be the poor in our country.

I would hope that Blacks could understand and recognize that modern day slavery
are the Liberals holding their heads underneath water and keeping them poor.
(no pun intended)

I am tired of being a white man who's relatives barely made it out of Ireland.
Being White means your constantly made to feel guilt because certain blacks in
our county have glorified themselves with martyrdom syndrome and have created an
industry out of an idea that all whites enslaved them and they deserve infinite
retribution.

I will always be there for them to lend a hand up but not a hand out. God bless
the people of New Orleans both Black and White and I hope they can see a better
America ahead of them.

[5by5]

The problem wasn't the lack of transportation (witness the buses) but rather the failure to plan for a place to take evacuees. Once the Katrina was inbound it was too late to find places to take people.

I suspect, that without any concrete plans and procedures, everyone from the mayor down simply bugged out.

Since then, the only real state and local effort has been a$$-covering and finger-pointing.

[MD_Willington_1976]

I bet Cubans could turn those into ocean going vessels within 24 hours...

[april15Bendovr]

[Only1choice____Freedom]

My CWO used to have a sign on her wall:

"Lack of planning on your part does not necessarily justify an emergency on my part.

[frogjerk]

My CWO used to have a sign on her wall:

"Lack of planning on your part does not necessarily justify an emergency on my part.

That was my inspiration for the comment.

[RetiredArmy]

The fine mayor (barf) plans to turn those busses into low rent shelters. Milk that federal money.

[april15Bendovr]

http://billhobbs.com/hobbsonline/007188.html

Why are scores of school buses sitting in the flood waters of New Orleans today? Blame New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, who is one reason things have gotten worse, not better, in his stricken city since it was hit by Hurricane Katrina. His laissez faire approach to looting allowed the looters to become increasingly armed and violent, interrupting rescue and recovery operations.

But even before Katrina hit, he failed his poorest citizens horribly. He told them to evacuate the city - and then gave his city's poorest residents no way to do so.

Nagin lashed out at federal officials yesterday for the government's relief efforts, pleading for the government to round up "500 buses" to send to New Orleans to evacuate survivors.

But Nagin, who ordered a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans before Katrina hit, ought to be made to answer this question: Where are the buses of the New Orleans Regional Transit Authority? Under water? Destroyed? Why?

[april15Bendovr]

Sorry my last post was supposed to be all not to myself

[TheDon]

In an interview with Fox News last night, LA Gov accepted full blame for not evacuating NO before the hurricane.

She said that while the NO Mayor had given a mandatory evacuation order as of Sunday, which had not been rescinded, only she had the power and resources to actually implement the evacuation. She said she was still trying to decide if she would enforce a mandatory evacuation.

[WasDougsLamb]

That was just plain ignorance leaving those buses to set and NOT use them to evacuate. Get that lazy SOB out of office and elect a new Mayor who knows what the hell to do when someone says there is a hurricane coming and its a biggy. If he knew about it and the flood potential, which he DID, then HE DROPPED THE BALL. Not Bush, Not GOD. After the hurricane and flooding, then it continued to spiral because of the Mayor and lack of a non-criminal police force. They were looting themselves after all. Too busy to get survivors on buses. And so much easier to cry poor me.

[Gandalf_The_Gray]

to get the people out of town by Saturday.

I agree he should have done that, it would have saved many more of the old and infirm, but not all. Even today after all the horror of the past week, with NO police compelling people to leave, people are resisting. Old people who do not want to leave their home of a lifetime. Younger better prepared people who had the foresight to stock up on the necessities before the disaster and are determined to ride it out. I think it is a natural instinct for people to hunker down and defend the "home front". Birds, insects, fish, and mammals all show this possessiveness of their territory. It’s part of what it means to be alive. In the "exclusion zone" surrounding the Tschernobyl reactor meltdown, residual radiation is still at life threatening levels and yet close to ten thousand people (mostly older folk) have returned to spend their remaining lives in their familial homes.

The point of all this? Yes, the mayor could have done a better job of getting people out. But there comes a point, and I think we are now passing that point, when forcing people to leave their homes is immoral. Does the state have a charter to force you to live in safety? In Ukraine and Belarus the answer is no, what is the answer here in the “home of the brave”?

Regards,
GtG

[b4its2late]

But, but, but, they're not Greyhounds! Not good enough for my people.

Did you know that he did say that according to what Rush just read from Newsmax?

[polymuser]

Rush just asked a dead-on question: Why didn't they use the same means to evacuate as they do to get voters to polls?

[YankeeGirl]

I'm not ready to make him a hero. He was an early 20-something kid who "commandeered" the bus, over-filled it with desperate people, and showed up unexpectedly at the astrodome. Meanwhile, folks were waiting in line at the superdome to be evacuated and the astrodome folks were still preparing the place so that it would be in better shape and more organized than the horror at the superdome.

That said, it would have been far better to bus people out BEFORE the flooding. The pictures of the unused school buses should be etched on that mayor's conscious for the rest of his life.

[uncitizen]

The problem wasn't the lack of transportation (witness the buses) but rather the failure to plan for a place to take evacuees.

How 'bout just driving northwest? How 'bout driving to Houston?

Recall right before the hurricane hit, Nagin-the-non-drug-addict told his citizens "this is not a drill! this is the real thing!" (i paraphrase). Point is, he knew it was coming and should've utilized those buses regardless of whether they had toilets, regardless of whether or not they knew where to go. Surely, Houston, and other cities would've provided refuge for the N.O. evacuees.

There is just no excuse for Nagins failure of leadership.

[the Deejay]

Well of course I should have stated "all those willing to leave" should have been on a bus, train or plane outta there. What we've seen, were thousands that did go to the SuperDome.

Not much one can do to make people leave. I did hear it is left to a mayor to make sure people live in safety. Whether or not the remaing will be forced to leave is yet to be known. They will eventually die in due time.

No food or water will be made available to them.

No services, or goods for many months to come.

Most will likely die due to diseases breeding and swarming around them.

[b4its2late]

Turns out, Nagin turned his nose up at the yellow buses, demanding more comfortable Greyhound coaches instead.
"I need 500 buses, man," he told WWL. "One of the briefings we had they were talking about getting, you know, public school bus drivers to come down here and bus people out of here."

Nagin described his response:

"I'm like - you've got to be kidding me. This is a natural disaster. Get every doggone Greyhound bus line in the country and get their asses moving to New Orleans."

While Nagin was waiting for his Greyhound fleet, Katrina's floodwaters swamped his school buses, rendering them unusable.

[rwa265]

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