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Ray Nagin: School Buses Not Good Enough
newsmax.com ^ | Thursday, Sept. 8, 2005 11:38 a.m. EDT

Posted on 09/08/2005 8:46:29 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

Thursday, Sept. 8, 2005 11:38 a.m. EDT Ray Nagin: School Buses Not Good Enough

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin garnered a ton of publicity with a profanity-laced interview he gave to WWL radio last Thursday, where he blasted President Bush and Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco for not coming to rescue his city in time.

However, Nagin's most newsworthy comments - where he explained why he didn't used hundreds of city school buses to evacuate his city's flood victims - went almost unnoticed.

Turns out, Nagin turned his nose up at the yellow buses, demanding more comfortable Greyhound coaches instead. "I need 500 buses, man," he told WWL. "One of the briefings we had they were talking about getting, you know, public school bus drivers to come down here and bus people out of here."

Nagin described his response:

"I'm like - you've got to be kidding me. This is a natural disaster. Get every doggone Greyhound bus line in the country and get their asses moving to New Orleans."

While Nagin was waiting for his Greyhound fleet, Katrina's floodwaters swamped his school buses, rendering them unusable.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: buses; grossincompetence; katrina; katrinafacts; nagin
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To: InvisibleChurch

Ray Nagin fails to comprehend that when you're in a hole the first thing to do is to quit digging.


41 posted on 09/08/2005 8:57:46 AM PDT by auboy (9 out of 10 boxes of rocks are smarter than Nancy Pelosi)
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To: cripplecreek
I've ridden a school bus before while chaperoning class field trips. They worked fine for me. The seats certainly afford more room than most airplanes. Granted, I'm not large. But, if school buses seat High School basketball players, they'd seat most other adults, I guess.
42 posted on 09/08/2005 8:58:00 AM PDT by keats5
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To: cripplecreek

When we were forced to land at Coldfoot instead of proceeding north to our construction camp, we were taken by schoolbus the rest of the way. It was 85 below zero, and the driver, who seemed real pleased to be assigned that job, never got the bus out of second gear the whole way. Think school buses have a somewhat hard ride? It can be even stiffer under the right conditions. There was heat inside the bus, BTW, it never got below -60 in there.


43 posted on 09/08/2005 8:58:23 AM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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To: stuartcr

Regarding the comment pasted below. I am pretty sure that as soon as a mandatory evacuation order is issued that many, if not most, of the normal liability statutes are set aside.



Who would want to drive an un airconditioned school bus, full of evacuees, when you have your own family to take care of? Certainly not the regular school bus drivers, what other city employees would do it? Is it even legal to just hand over the keys to city property to anyone that says they can drive a bus? Who is liable in case of an accident?


44 posted on 09/08/2005 8:58:27 AM PDT by Presby Conservative
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To: InvisibleChurch

The Superdome and conventionc enter was much better than a school bus ride


NOT


45 posted on 09/08/2005 8:58:27 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: InvisibleChurch
I get a chuckle when the reporters are standing in New Orleans and say that it stinks like sewage.

They obviously have never been there before Katrina.

46 posted on 09/08/2005 8:58:51 AM PDT by lormand (George W. Bush is saving your ass, whether you like it or not.)
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To: stuartcr
There was a New Orleans evacuation plan. Unless the people who prepared it were dumber than dirt there were also provisions to supply drivers. When you are talking about saving people's lives air conditioning becomes secondary (and believe me, I love my a/c so I don't say this lightly). The legalities of who should get the keys and if the city if liable are questions that could have been debated AFTER rescuing people. The handling of the evac by the city of NO was a complete SNAFU from the word go,or in this case NO GO.
47 posted on 09/08/2005 8:59:20 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: InvisibleChurch
I still wonder if a union contract did`nt allow the public employees to be called in to drive.
48 posted on 09/08/2005 8:59:24 AM PDT by carlr
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To: CheneyChick

You are correct. The keys should have been left in the buses, and the gate, unlocked.


49 posted on 09/08/2005 8:59:57 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Windsong

No sir, I would not. My mouth is supposed to be redeemed from such talk. A public servant is supposed to behave like one. No public figure should be using such language-it speaks of ignorance.


50 posted on 09/08/2005 8:59:57 AM PDT by truthingod
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To: beltfed308
Sure would have beat walking huh?

I was thinking swimming.

51 posted on 09/08/2005 9:00:20 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Failure is not an option; it is mandatory)
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To: Dane
those buses to get people out must have bathrooms, DVD players, and oh yeah caviar served by Hooter's waitresses would be nice also.

Now that's my kind of evacuation. Except the caviar, I'm not into that.

But with a Cat 5 bearing down, and me living 10 feet below sea level, I'd ride in the back of a dump truck to get out of there.

52 posted on 09/08/2005 9:00:31 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: InvisibleChurch

for later.


53 posted on 09/08/2005 9:00:31 AM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: wideawake
"It makes much more sense to wait for a Greyhound Bus to come from Seattle or Portland, ME to come and pick me up than to take a ratty school bus from a halfmile away"

Actually, he was waiting for the Concordes to show up -- he felt only "first class" at supersonic speeds would be good enough for his evacuees.... when it was pointed out to him that (1) Concordes are no longer in service, and (2) there never were enough Concordes in existence to do the job anyway, and (3) landing aircraft at the NOLA airport would not help folks at the Superdome, he finally relented and said he would wait for Greyhound to arrive from Seattle, Boston, etc.
54 posted on 09/08/2005 9:00:43 AM PDT by Enchante
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To: auboy

Was that a metaphor for New Orleans, as a whole?

Very well done ;)


55 posted on 09/08/2005 9:00:43 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: JFC

I understand that Hillary is trying to ensure that the focus of the upcoming Katrina investigation remains on just the errors made by the US government. Don't want to look at the local or state failures, oh no!


56 posted on 09/08/2005 9:00:51 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

a. Lots of towns/cities have school buses as part of their disaster plan....because IT'S A DISASTER means you use everything that moves!

b. Speaking of funny...I know of a homeless woman that on discharge from the hospital demanded a bus ticket to a hot vacation spot 3 states over. When asked why (like if she had family there-- then they would have sent her there) she stated "I've just always wanted to visit there". I kid you not.


57 posted on 09/08/2005 9:00:56 AM PDT by najida (I'm ashamed to share the same chromosomes with Blanco.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
I think by the time Nagin demanded Greyhound buses be confiscated by the government, he already knew the schoolbuses were swamped.

It was a lame attempt at CYA, but the fawning media didn't call him on it.

58 posted on 09/08/2005 9:01:27 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (The 'right to choose' = The right to choose death --for somebody else.)
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To: Windsong

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Under the same conditions, 99% of Freepers would swear in much the same way. Get a clue.<<

I doubt very much that 99%5 of Freepers would get in front of a mic and spout off such ignorant, profanity-laced tirades. The mayor is an incompetent buffoon, and he is the one who is "clueless" of how to act in public.


59 posted on 09/08/2005 9:02:05 AM PDT by SerpentDove ("Where there is no vision, the people perish." - Proverbs 29:18)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Twerp. And thousands of people are dead because of him. Naah - he didn't care if his own citizens lived or died. Ray Nagin is no Rudy Guiliani!

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
60 posted on 09/08/2005 9:02:16 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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