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Assembly passes same-sex marriage bill
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Posted on 09/06/2005 8:21:03 PM PDT by America First Libertarian

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To: calcowgirl

e-mail sent to the governor bump


21 posted on 09/06/2005 8:58:15 PM PDT by John Lenin (When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around)
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To: calcowgirl

1.) California (or the states)
2.) And acting via the legislature, holding themselves accountable to voters.


22 posted on 09/06/2005 9:00:54 PM PDT by America First Libertarian (America for Americans)
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To: calcowgirl

I make no bones about being a lover of liberty and supporting gay marriage, as long as religious institutions aren't forced to perform or recognize them, it is a win-win situation. I care about Americans, and race, religion, income, sexual orientation etc, mean nothing to me. As long as one does not initiate force or transgression against another citizen, I could note care any less what they do or how they live.


23 posted on 09/06/2005 9:03:36 PM PDT by America First Libertarian (America for Americans)
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To: claudiustg

"The California legislature? Too funny!"

What then? Personal gain? I'm just wondering why.


24 posted on 09/06/2005 9:04:54 PM PDT by Sun Soldier
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To: calcowgirl

Aren't there?

They fit in quite nicely with the BC crowd...


25 posted on 09/06/2005 9:05:15 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: America First Libertarian

You obviously don't have children, or if you do, you don't mind that they're being fed an agenda that will NOT be beneficial to their long-term well being.


26 posted on 09/06/2005 9:08:54 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: America First Libertarian

gay marriage is an oxymoron. I'm ashamed to live in california.


27 posted on 09/06/2005 9:12:28 PM PDT by Red RN
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To: America First Libertarian

gay marriage is an oxymoron. I'm ashamed to live in california.


28 posted on 09/06/2005 9:13:29 PM PDT by Red RN
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To: Brad's Gramma

I have children, and I instill in them a sense of tolerance, and a love for liberty. They aren't being fed an agenda, I do what so many parents seem to be unwilling to do--Parent. Another example is the fact I have cable, and many violent movies, but they know what they are allowed to watch, and what they are not allowed to, I don't need any liberal or conservative to parent my child, I take care of that.


29 posted on 09/06/2005 9:15:09 PM PDT by America First Libertarian (America for Americans)
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To: America First Libertarian

I've instilled that same sense in my kids AND grandson...but once they're out of your sight, away from YOUR influence, ie a classroom....ALL that you've taught them can VERY WELL be shoved aside.

And you won't be able to do squat.

It may be that you don't care about this issue, but someday, something equally disgusting to you WILL happen.

The gay lifestyle is unnatural, men have a shorter lifespan, and there is NOTHING that they can't do now that this stupid bill passing will accomplish. Think about it.

I'm NOT angry with you, not at all. Please don't read it that way. You're just wrong. That's all.

I'm a Gramma and carry far more "weight" than you do. Ha! ;)


30 posted on 09/06/2005 9:21:04 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: John Lenin

Good job. I tried but kept getting an error message indicating his website was busy. (I'll try again later).

I did send a nasty message to my not-so-esteemed State Senator yesterday.


31 posted on 09/06/2005 9:22:30 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: America First Libertarian

English as a second language?


32 posted on 09/06/2005 9:24:07 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: muawiyah

You sure offer some food for thought.

I have a gut feeling that the Mexicans may end up not fully appreciating the Euro-style secular socialism, the belittlement of the traditional family unit, and the amoral free-for-all that the Democrats are foisting on California (and WANT to foist on the entire nation).

When the time comes that the productive white middle class has mostly vacated California and the place is 70% Mexican, there could well be a sea change in California politics. Heck, the Mexicans may end up being more "Republican" than today's California "Republicans" are. Like the Cubans in Florida.


33 posted on 09/06/2005 9:24:29 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: America First Libertarian
"I make no bones about being a lover of liberty and supportinig gay marriage,..."

I suppose you are also a 'lover' of NAMBLA, bestiality, adultery, and other various sexual unions that are contrary to what is normally accepted in society.
Don't kid yourself. A society that turns its back on 'right and wrong' and builds its foundation on shifting sands will not stand.

34 posted on 09/06/2005 9:25:54 PM PDT by El Cid
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To: America First Libertarian

Hello!????

The legislature represents the voters--the voters already voiced their preference. This is an out and out assault on the people of California by a group of leftist single-issue GLBT activist legislators who have violated their oath of office by ignoring Proposition 22.


35 posted on 09/06/2005 9:26:36 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Brad's Gramma

I hear ya!


36 posted on 09/06/2005 9:27:59 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Brad's Gramma

Indeed at this point I am only a father. Once my children are adults and on thier own (they are allowed to live with me as long as they wish) then it is their life to live. I am giving them the essentials, and they have to be freethinkers. I don't want robots for children, they will find their own way, and may even reject the values of liberty, as adults it is their decision.

Thier is no scientific evidence to prove gay men have a shorter lifespan because they are gay. Cameron's study has been widely discredited. And not all gay men are rabid and sex crazed. I know many gays, not of them are effeminate, a few have children, gay is just one aspect of their life.

Their is a sociological aspect to problems in the gay community, sadly the sucide rate amongst teens, due to their parents disowning them, and society telling them they are unnatural, sick, sinners, or flawed because of who they natually are. I'm not about that, I am about liberty, and unity amongst Americans.


37 posted on 09/06/2005 9:29:22 PM PDT by America First Libertarian (America for Americans)
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To: Sun Soldier

They legislature is largely made up of lackeys for the leftist ideologues that are concentrated in many parts of the state and voting for this atrocity will get them big dollars from their political paymasters. Those dollars will assure their reelection and continued power.

If they had an once of decency they'd put this up for a statewide referendum, but of course they good never get the people to pass it in a statewide vote. The little rats are secure in their districts though if they can get enough cash.

I consider myself a political refugee from California and I've come to look on those Democrat politicos much the way refugees from Communist countries look upon their ex-commissars.

They're a bunch of vampires, bleeding that state dry of wealth, decency, and freedom.


38 posted on 09/06/2005 9:29:45 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: calcowgirl; America First Libertarian
The legislature represents the voters....

In MY world it sure 'nuf does!

39 posted on 09/06/2005 9:30:37 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: America First Libertarian

The average lifespan of a gay man is 42 years. And it is scientific, well known in the medical field.


40 posted on 09/06/2005 9:33:20 PM PDT by Red RN
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