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Bush joins those opposed to word "refugees"
AP ^ | 9/6/05

Posted on 09/06/2005 3:59:21 PM PDT by Crackingham

In the debate about how to describe those displaced by Hurricane Katrina, President Bush is joining those who don't like the word "refugees."

The president tells reporters, "The people we're talking about are not refugees, they are Americans."

And he adds, "They need the help and love and compassion of our fellow citizens."

Bush spoke during a meeting with leaders of charity and volunteer groups who are helping Katrina's victims.

His words appear to put him on the same side as the Reverend Jesse Jackson, who has declared it's "racist" to call U.S. citizens refugees.

Jackson and other black leaders say the word has a criminal connotation -- and prefer the more neutral term "evacuees."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: evacuees; katrina
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To: Crackingham
[Bush`s] words appear to put him on the same side as the Reverend Jesse Jackson, who has declared it's "racist" to call U.S. citizens refugees.

The President didn't equate the word "refugees" with the word "racist". Jesse the Jerk did that.

21 posted on 09/06/2005 4:17:19 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: Mrs Mark
Well I'm glad no one is seeking refuge.

A refugee is not one who is simply seeking refuge. It is a term with specific meaning, dictionary definition. As usual, some newsdope used the wrong word to descibe the victims of this storm, the others latched on to it. Thing is, there is nothing inherently insulting or racist whatsoever about the word ... it is simply a grammatical error. Why people are so hot and bothered over its use astounds me.

It is also incorrect to call the folks "evacuees" -- the only ones who are evacuees are those who were actually and in fact evacuated from the area. What is the problem with calling the group what they are: VICTIMS OF A NATURAL DISASTER?

22 posted on 09/06/2005 4:26:51 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: mlc9852

"Who started calling them refugees anyway?"

The MSM did. I remarked at work on Tuesday that this was THE FIRST time I have ever heard that term used in a situation like this. It just sounded odd.


23 posted on 09/06/2005 4:29:04 PM PDT by hophead (" Enjoy Every Sandwich WZ")
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To: flashbunny
RE: #4

ROFLMBO!!!

24 posted on 09/06/2005 4:29:51 PM PDT by A2J (Oh, I wish I was in Dixie...)
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To: samadams2000

"I heard a congressman say that some big checks are going to have to be written to the displaced..."

Back door reparations????


25 posted on 09/06/2005 4:30:43 PM PDT by hophead (" Enjoy Every Sandwich WZ")
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To: SpaceBar

Call 'em "the Masses of Asses". I don't think they care too much....


26 posted on 09/06/2005 4:31:43 PM PDT by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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To: Crackingham

Rush was talking about this the other day. Said they are " not refugees".


27 posted on 09/06/2005 4:32:16 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: hophead

We must end welfare as we know it. Weve killed generations of initiative, education and citizenry.


28 posted on 09/06/2005 4:32:44 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanterns..with a smiley face!)
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To: frogjerk

Hmm, sounds like refugees to me....

They make it sound like refugee is a dirty word.


29 posted on 09/06/2005 4:34:50 PM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: roses of sharon

You mean the we're better than everyone else, nobody does anything right, complain, complain, complain, let's find someone to blame, look how heroic we are, hysterical media?

I happen to agree with the President AND Jackson on this. So, officially, I think Hell has frozen over and the trees are full of pigs.


30 posted on 09/06/2005 4:34:51 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Crackingham

Evacuees might be better than refugees. They aren't homeless though. They all left homes of one kind or another. Temporary tourists.


31 posted on 09/06/2005 4:36:03 PM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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To: mlc9852

I think it was Shep


32 posted on 09/06/2005 4:36:23 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Crackingham; mhking
I'm with mhking on this one: survivors.

I have been making a conscious effort over the last few years to use that word when describing someone who has lived through a catastrophe, whether it was man-made, natural, or self-inflicted. Maybe my use of the word won't make any real difference, but it is how I am taking a stand against victimhood.

33 posted on 09/06/2005 4:39:14 PM PDT by grellis (Femininist. Think about it.)
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To: Reagan Man

Personally I don't mind using the word evacuee if people are offended by the term refugee, but I balk at using yet another hyphenated "displaced-American" or "American-of-displacement".


34 posted on 09/06/2005 4:47:04 PM PDT by libsl (I'm just sayin'....)
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To: frogjerk

I think 'homeless' fits the bill...


35 posted on 09/06/2005 4:58:42 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: libsl

In the last week I've used both evacuee and refugee. These people aren't refugees. My mistake. Evacuee is the right word.


36 posted on 09/06/2005 5:01:47 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: RightWhale
They aren't homeless though.

Not at the moment...But they will be...Their homes are going to be bulldozed...

37 posted on 09/06/2005 5:02:20 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Crackingham
The people we're talking about are not refugees, they are Americans

Did we think they came from a country called Refugia??????

38 posted on 09/06/2005 5:06:05 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: pollywog

These people are NOT "refugees"!

I was appropriately called a "refugee" when I arrived in this country fleeing from a revolution that was founded on persecution and oppression based because you believed in freedom of expression!


39 posted on 09/06/2005 5:17:34 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Crackingham

How about displaced hurricane evacuees?


40 posted on 09/06/2005 5:20:27 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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