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New Orleans Death Toll 10,000? I don't think so.
Self | September 6, 2005 | Vanity

Posted on 09/06/2005 2:33:59 AM PDT by BillCompton

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To: BillCompton

7,500+


21 posted on 09/06/2005 3:01:02 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: BillCompton
The Mayor is hysterically predicting there will be 10,000

And also predicting CIA hit teams are being dispatched to take him out. NUTJOB! FLOOD-INDUCED DELUSION!

22 posted on 09/06/2005 3:01:44 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: cynicom
Speculation via a vanity is a waste of time.

Didn't you say?: "The truth is never stupid."

Sometimes there is room for common sense. And sometimes people who write vanities have something worthwhile to say.
23 posted on 09/06/2005 3:03:11 AM PDT by BillCompton
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To: cynicom; BillCompton
Speculation via a vanity is a waste of time.

Maybe we should call it 'pulling a Nagin'.

At least Bill has evidenced some thought on his estimate. Nagin is still rhetorically flailing.

24 posted on 09/06/2005 3:03:26 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: BillCompton
Sometimes there is room for common sense. And sometimes people who write vanities have something worthwhile to say.

Speculating on the final tally of dead, hoping for your number to be called, is just plain creepy. It's akin to the left-winged dingbats hoping for 3,000 dead American soldiers in Iraq for justification of a failed Presidency.

25 posted on 09/06/2005 3:06:05 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: BillCompton
Bill...And vanities are frowned upon here. Especially inane speculation vanities.

That aside, truth and speculation are not even related. Wait until the count is finalized, come back and we can discuss the results given by people there on the ground that get paid to deal in reality not speculation.

26 posted on 09/06/2005 3:09:07 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: BillCompton

The count in New Orleans according to CNN is 71 at the moment.


27 posted on 09/06/2005 3:09:32 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: Pro-Bush
I'll say 17,000.

In New Orleans? How? Give me an individual scenario that could be multiplied into figures like you have given. When the tsunamis hit, there were bodies everywhere. You could not point the camera without seeing them. I have seen something like two bodies. One dropped and died on the pavement where Shep Smith (idiot) showed him in a most dramatic fashion. The other was in a wheel chair. I have seen no floating bodies (I understand they exist, but nothing like you would see if you had 17,000.)
28 posted on 09/06/2005 3:09:54 AM PDT by BillCompton
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To: Pro-Bush

How many of those are murders?


29 posted on 09/06/2005 3:13:42 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And now, little man, I give the watch to you.”)
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To: BillCompton

I've thought the same thing. I believe it is very irresponsible (but not surprising) for the mayor to just throw a number out based on nothing. This man just keeps showing what a true failure he is.


30 posted on 09/06/2005 3:14:14 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Godebert
I'd bet around 5,000 to 10,000. Lot's of people trapped in attics.
31 posted on 09/06/2005 3:15:19 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: BillCompton

The figure of 10 thousand was my initial estimate. Now I think it is too low.

Initially my death estimates for the tsunami were very close to what they ended up being.

I have a nose for death.

I am guessing 10 to 20 thousand with final figures not known every


32 posted on 09/06/2005 3:15:25 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: BillCompton
Stragglers, the poor bastards. ..Some say 10% of 1.5 million stayed behind. 17,000 is a small percentage of that.
33 posted on 09/06/2005 3:17:19 AM PDT by Pro-Bush (Where are those FEMA prison camps when you need them?)
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To: BillCompton

I don't know how they're coming up with the figure...my husband agrees with you that it will be far less than 10,000.

However, if you consider that many of the nursing homes were abandoned by the staff and now they are finding older people who have died, the people from hospitals that died during or after evacuation, the people that died in the airport after they were evacuated, etc. they may reach into the thousands.

I think the casualty figures will include all those that died in any storm related situation, like evacuation, traffic accidents, etc.

Also, to me it's unclear if they'll list deaths by individual parishes or clump the death toll from all the parishes together.

I did read a first hand count of some guy that had gone back into town to get his stuff and had seen 15 floating bodies and heard accounts on TV of people that lived close to the 17th Street levee break, and in their case flooding was quick and dramatic and people drowned.


34 posted on 09/06/2005 3:17:31 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: johnny7

Totally!!


35 posted on 09/06/2005 3:17:59 AM PDT by Pro-Bush (Where are those FEMA prison camps when you need them?)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Meanwhile, the main stream media, in league with the political shills that occupy positions of responsibility in Louisiana, continues to politicize this tragedy.

Ted Koppel's grilling of Michael Brown of FEMA reached a new low last night when Ted said something to the effect of, "How could you not know what was happening at the Super Dome? Don't you watch television?"

My response to Ted would have been, " I sure do Ted. I saw television crew after television crew, day after day, make there way to the Super Dome to report on the people's plight. But, you know what Ted, I didn't see a single TV person, or anyone with them bring in any supplies. I didn't see a single TV person do anything about the suffering. I didn't see a single TV person offer one person a drink of water. Why is that Ted? Don't they watch television? Didn't they know they were heading into an area that needed water and food? It seems that television reporting people have no sense of community. How else could you explain standing by and reporting on a problem without attempting to help?"

36 posted on 09/06/2005 3:18:31 AM PDT by Texas Jack
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To: cynicom
...given by people there on the ground that get paid to deal in reality not speculation.

Like the Mayor? If you google "Death Toll" in News, it is 10,000 as far as the eye can see. This is like the $10 Billion it was going to take to clean up the ruble from 9/11. Some things are just not believable on their face. 10,000 makes no sense and the point aint going to get made by the media or the politicians because there is no upside for either. So who is going to point out that both have an ax to grind? Me. Frown away.
37 posted on 09/06/2005 3:19:17 AM PDT by BillCompton
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To: BillCompton

I saw several such interviews of waters rising quickly. Something else you must keep in mind are the elderly, ill, and overweight people who are bare ambulatory in the best of conditions and hardly able to climb to escape even slowly rising waters waiting until it was too late to make their move. Many would be trapped in staircases or the highest possoble level in their house when the water rose above their heads. A satellite technician who owned a website I frequent was found (with his family) drowned in their house in the stairway to their attic. The attic door was jammed. The number of houses flooded is mindboggling.


38 posted on 09/06/2005 3:19:40 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: BillCompton

Probably considerably more than 4 per day out of the population that stayed. (Higher % of aged, ill, handicapped, hospitalized in that population.) Population of 1.3 million--13 X 4 = 52 x 80% = 41.6 per day x 'Y'. Y = number of days. 5 days, around 200 people would have died 'normally' in the population that stayed in NO. Disclaimer: This is a guesstimate!


39 posted on 09/06/2005 3:20:18 AM PDT by elli1
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To: AmericaUnited

He's still not over quitting his $400K day-job to be mayor of a swamp.


40 posted on 09/06/2005 3:20:50 AM PDT by orlop9
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