Posted on 09/05/2005 7:23:54 PM PDT by Mount Athos
Members of the Senate Democrats K Street inner circle are predicting that as many as 25 Democrats will vote to confirm John Roberts as chief justice of the United States.
Several attendees of the Monday Group, as Senate Minority Leader Harry Reids (D-Nev.) biweekly lobbyist meetings are known, said the Democrats could suffer politically if their Roberts strategy misfires. Left-wing ideological groups are pressuring Democratic lawmakers to expose Robertss conservative record without workable grounds for a fight, Monday Group lobbyists said.
Its not a good thing for Democrats to be dragged into a visible, high-profile battle on him for weeks when Congress ought to be dealing with issues the public really cares about, one key Democratic lobbyist said. Thats the biggest danger for Democrats, if they get sucked into something like that because of the ideological left.
Though some Democrats already have called for Congress to focus on aiding the blighted Gulf Coast as the new session begins, planning for the Roberts hearings likely will dominate the Monday Groups next meeting, on Sept. 12. Informal discussions among some lobbyists and Democratic aides during the recess were said to yield little in the way of cohesive counsel.
There is no real coordinated effort to enlist K Street in getting involved, said another well-connected Democrat, one of many who hailed Roberts as an unassailably shrewd selection. Theres no sense in creating a big dustup now downtown, when what are you going to fight about?
Democratic lobbyists greatest concern about Roberts is not pinning down his positions on federal preemption or civil rights, despite the recent Monday Group guest appearance of Wade Henderson, president of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights. Many K Street Democrats instead questioned what they characterized as poorly coordinated messaging from liberal groups that has unduly influenced some lawmakers.
The other dirty little secret the Democrats have to deal with is there may be some in party who see it as, It would be worthwhile to drag it out a little bit so we can raise some money off the deal from left-wing special interests, a Monday Group member said. Thats shortsighted, and politically dangerous too.
In particular, Democratic lobbyists singled out the NARAL Pro-Choice Alliance decision to endorse Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.), who is certain to face a tough reelection fight next year, in a potential bid to sway him on Roberts. If Chafee spurns the pro-abortion-rights group by voting to confirm, his Democratic challenger could be weakened, and Monday Group lobbyists said a Republican voting against Roberts would be highly unlikely.
Id advise my clients to stay out of this one, said another lobbyist with ties to Democratic leadership. Why would they use up political capital on something they cant possibly win on or benefit from? I dont see a good opening for us.
One Monday Group regular likened the Roberts confirmation to this springs tension over the nuclear option, saying that in both cases a swift resolution and moving on to other business would be the best-case scenario.
K Street Democrats agreed that Roberts ultimately would be confirmed with anywhere from 65 to 80 votes, with most centrist and Southern Democrats voting to approve the nomination. Every Democrat who signed the Gang of 14 agreement to preserve the minoritys right of judicial filibuster will vote for Roberts, they predicted, with several openly forecasting that Reid himself will support the nominee.
Some lobbyists credited Reid with ensuring that no Democrat has declared support for Roberts yet, a stance often phrased by the minority leader as keeping [our] powder dry.
One lobbyist said, The only concerted strategy Ive seen come out of the caucus has been: Dont make any commitments to support him. Leaderships been very successful in keeping everybody on that page.
But, K Street Democrats said, as soon as the hearings begin, either Thursday or Monday, expect Democratic senators such as Ben Nelson (Neb.), Mary Landrieu (La.) or Blanche Lincoln (Ark.) to reveal quickly their votes in Robertss favor.
Reid spokesman Jim Manley said that Monday Group lobbyists would be consulted as the hearings progress but that they would not be relied upon for messaging. We talk to them all the time. Are we planning on using them? No, Manley said. Its up to the members of the Judiciary Committee to carefully review Robertss qualifications for the job.
Asked whether a majority of the Democratic caucus voting for Roberts would concern Reid, Manley declined to comment. Lets just wait and see, he said.
I hope John ROberts has a little Transistor Radio with an earpiece. He should listen the the fall Baseball games will the Dems are speaking.
Maybe not after they way they have treated President Bush these past 5 years.
**25 Democrats will vote to confirm John Roberts as chief justice of the United States.**
Wooo-Hooo!
And they are idiots. Just looking at Roberts' demeanor and the way he deresses his children implies he's not another Souter. Just an observation.
Any predictions on how Hitlery will vote?
The way I see it , she's screwed either way.
She votes "nay" she is a left wing extremist.
She votes "yay" she is a weak flip-flopper with no allegiange to core Rat values.
Just has different Dem senators talking about the importance of NOT making an appointee to SCOTUS answer questions about cases that haven't been tried. Then has Ginsberg repeatedly (in different ways) saying she would not answer "that" question. Gives outcome of vote. Pro-confirming-Roberts. Saw it on Fox, of course.
Only time will tell if he's another Souter.
I would be more comfortable with a known commodity.
But, the President failed to consult me.
Hey, I'm watching Brit Hume and Fred Barnes -- it's 9:50 p.m. and they just showed the famous picture of the buses. Fred is wondering why the Mayor didn't use those buses and why he waited so long to issue the mandatory evacuation.
They're starting to talk sense about where the blame really lies.
Yeah, but they'll push for behind the scenes delays until the cows come home.
What the heck. I predict she will vote to confirm. Part of her move to the middle strategy. She gains nothing by voting against him because she already has the Roberts-haters in her back pocket. Sure they will be mad about a vote to confirm, but what are they going to do? Vote Republican?
Sorry, no signs of gonads yet.
You must not remember much about the Thomas confirmation hearings. When Anita Hill lied before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Senate Republicans went after her with both barrels loaded. Arlen Specter caught her in a lie and publicly accused her of perjury. Indeed, liberals complained bitterly at the "treatment" Hill received. If the White House and Senate Republicans hadn't fought for him tooth and nail, he wouldn't have been confirmed.
What does dressing his kids have to do with it? Does Souter put his kids in punk rock gear with Che Guevara shirts or something?
The DUmmies are going to mad at a lot of their Senators hopefully.
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