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25 Dems could vote for Roberts
The Hill ^ | September 6, 2005 | Elana Schor

Posted on 09/05/2005 7:23:54 PM PDT by Mount Athos

Members of the Senate Democrats’ K Street inner circle are predicting that as many as 25 Democrats will vote to confirm John Roberts as chief justice of the United States.

Several attendees of the Monday Group, as Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) biweekly lobbyist meetings are known, said the Democrats could suffer politically if their Roberts strategy misfires. Left-wing ideological groups are pressuring Democratic lawmakers to expose Roberts’s conservative record without workable grounds for a fight, Monday Group lobbyists said.

“It’s not a good thing for Democrats to be dragged into a visible, high-profile battle on him for weeks when Congress ought to be dealing with issues the public really cares about,” one key Democratic lobbyist said. “That’s the biggest danger for Democrats, if they get sucked into something like that because of the ideological left.”

Though some Democrats already have called for Congress to focus on aiding the blighted Gulf Coast as the new session begins, planning for the Roberts hearings likely will dominate the Monday Group’s next meeting, on Sept. 12. Informal discussions among some lobbyists and Democratic aides during the recess were said to yield little in the way of cohesive counsel.

“There is no real coordinated effort to enlist K Street in getting involved,” said another well-connected Democrat, one of many who hailed Roberts as an unassailably shrewd selection. “There’s no sense in creating a big dustup now downtown, when what are you going to fight about?”

Democratic lobbyists’ greatest concern about Roberts is not pinning down his positions on federal preemption or civil rights, despite the recent Monday Group guest appearance of Wade Henderson, president of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights. Many K Street Democrats instead questioned what they characterized as poorly coordinated messaging from liberal groups that has unduly influenced some lawmakers.

“The other dirty little secret the Democrats have to deal with is … there may be some in party who see it as, ‘It would be worthwhile to drag it out a little bit so we can raise some money off the deal’” from left-wing special interests, a Monday Group member said. “That’s shortsighted, and politically dangerous too.”

In particular, Democratic lobbyists singled out the NARAL Pro-Choice Alliance decision to endorse Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.), who is certain to face a tough reelection fight next year, in a potential bid to sway him on Roberts. If Chafee spurns the pro-abortion-rights group by voting to confirm, his Democratic challenger could be weakened, and Monday Group lobbyists said a Republican voting against Roberts would be highly unlikely.

“I’d advise my clients to stay out of this one,” said another lobbyist with ties to Democratic leadership. “Why would they use up political capital on something they can’t possibly win on or benefit from? … I don’t see a good opening for us.”

One Monday Group regular likened the Roberts confirmation to this spring’s tension over the “nuclear option,” saying that in both cases a swift resolution and moving on to other business would be the best-case scenario.

K Street Democrats agreed that Roberts ultimately would be confirmed with anywhere from 65 to 80 votes, with most centrist and Southern Democrats voting to approve the nomination. Every Democrat who signed the “Gang of 14” agreement to preserve the minority’s right of judicial filibuster will vote for Roberts, they predicted, with several openly forecasting that Reid himself will support the nominee.

Some lobbyists credited Reid with ensuring that no Democrat has declared support for Roberts yet, a stance often phrased by the minority leader as “keeping [our] powder dry.”

One lobbyist said, “The only concerted strategy I’ve seen come out of the caucus has been: Don’t make any commitments to support him. Leadership’s been very successful in keeping everybody on that page.”

But, K Street Democrats said, as soon as the hearings begin, either Thursday or Monday, expect Democratic senators such as Ben Nelson (Neb.), Mary Landrieu (La.) or Blanche Lincoln (Ark.) to reveal quickly their votes in Roberts’s favor.

Reid spokesman Jim Manley said that Monday Group lobbyists would be consulted as the hearings progress but that they would not be relied upon for messaging. “We talk to them all the time. Are we planning on using them? No,” Manley said. “It’s up to the members of the Judiciary Committee to carefully review Roberts’s qualifications for the job.”

Asked whether a majority of the Democratic caucus voting for Roberts would concern Reid, Manley declined to comment. “Let’s just wait and see,” he said.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 109th; confirmationhearing; johnroberts; obstructionistrats; rats; scotus; senaterats
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To: Mount Athos



I hope John ROberts has a little Transistor Radio with an earpiece. He should listen the the fall Baseball games will the Dems are speaking.


21 posted on 09/05/2005 8:40:30 PM PDT by msnimje (CNN - Constant Negative Nonsense)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
When the day again arrives when a democrat selects a SC justice, the Republicans will honor the president's choice and fall into line without complaint

Maybe not after they way they have treated President Bush these past 5 years.

22 posted on 09/05/2005 8:41:50 PM PDT by msnimje (CNN - Constant Negative Nonsense)
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To: Graybeard58
Not alot, the only difference I know of is the Chief can decided who gets to write the majority opinion, usually it is the most senior justice who does, but some time the Chief can overrule that and let one of the more junior justice do it. In Roe V Wade Chief Justice Berger who voted for Roe V Wade allowed his friend from Minn, I forget his name, to write the opinion in spite of the fact that he was a junior justice.
23 posted on 09/05/2005 8:45:13 PM PDT by THE MODERATE
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To: Mount Athos

**25 Democrats will vote to confirm John Roberts as chief justice of the United States.**

Wooo-Hooo!


24 posted on 09/05/2005 9:37:39 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: COEXERJ145

And they are idiots. Just looking at Roberts' demeanor and the way he deresses his children implies he's not another Souter. Just an observation.


25 posted on 09/05/2005 9:38:22 PM PDT by Xeroes80 (Mark Levin is THE VOICE OF REASON)
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To: Mount Athos

Any predictions on how Hitlery will vote?
The way I see it , she's screwed either way.
She votes "nay" she is a left wing extremist.
She votes "yay" she is a weak flip-flopper with no allegiange to core Rat values.


26 posted on 09/05/2005 9:44:28 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO & SLICK and his WINO)
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To: Mount Athos

Just has different Dem senators talking about the importance of NOT making an appointee to SCOTUS answer questions about cases that haven't been tried. Then has Ginsberg repeatedly (in different ways) saying she would not answer "that" question. Gives outcome of vote. Pro-confirming-Roberts. Saw it on Fox, of course.


27 posted on 09/05/2005 9:45:04 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: COEXERJ145

Only time will tell if he's another Souter.

I would be more comfortable with a known commodity.

But, the President failed to consult me.


28 posted on 09/05/2005 9:47:45 PM PDT by Sometimes A River ("The leaves have broken on Lake Ponktran" - WKAT 1360 AM Miami Newsreader)
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To: Mount Athos

Hey, I'm watching Brit Hume and Fred Barnes -- it's 9:50 p.m. and they just showed the famous picture of the buses. Fred is wondering why the Mayor didn't use those buses and why he waited so long to issue the mandatory evacuation.

They're starting to talk sense about where the blame really lies.


29 posted on 09/05/2005 9:48:27 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yeah, but they'll push for behind the scenes delays until the cows come home.


30 posted on 09/05/2005 10:05:06 PM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "ROFLOL!" -- tuliptree76; "Great point." -- AliVertias)
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To: Cincinna

What the heck. I predict she will vote to confirm. Part of her move to the middle strategy. She gains nothing by voting against him because she already has the Roberts-haters in her back pocket. Sure they will be mad about a vote to confirm, but what are they going to do? Vote Republican?


31 posted on 09/05/2005 10:51:42 PM PDT by freespirited (There is no such thing as a happy liberal.)
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To: msnimje
I don't know about that. Republicans watched Thomas savaged by lies and allowed Ruth Buzzi and Breyer to effortlessly win confirmation. I don't see any new players with the take no prisoners attitude. The Republicans couldn't even muster enough votes in their own caucus to slap down the unprecedented filibusters mounted by the dangerous democrats.

Sorry, no signs of gonads yet.

32 posted on 09/06/2005 6:56:18 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Sgt_Schultze

You must not remember much about the Thomas confirmation hearings. When Anita Hill lied before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Senate Republicans went after her with both barrels loaded. Arlen Specter caught her in a lie and publicly accused her of perjury. Indeed, liberals complained bitterly at the "treatment" Hill received. If the White House and Senate Republicans hadn't fought for him tooth and nail, he wouldn't have been confirmed.


33 posted on 09/06/2005 9:34:06 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Jeanine Pirro for Senate, Hillary Clinton for Weight Watchers Spokeswoman)
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To: Xeroes80
And they are idiots. Just looking at Roberts' demeanor and the way he deresses his children implies he's not another Souter. Just an observation.

What does dressing his kids have to do with it? Does Souter put his kids in punk rock gear with Che Guevara shirts or something?

34 posted on 09/06/2005 1:14:41 PM PDT by youthgonewild
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To: Mount Athos

The DUmmies are going to mad at a lot of their Senators hopefully.


35 posted on 09/06/2005 2:11:52 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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