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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
There's an Arab civilization? Coulda fooled me...
2 posted on
09/04/2005 8:24:46 PM PDT by
Conservative Canuck
(The Voice of One Crying in the Wilderness)
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
Less than one book a year is translated into Arabic per million people, compared to over 1000 per million for developed countries.Funny how they still manage to get their Islamic hate out.
4 posted on
09/04/2005 8:26:53 PM PDT by
quantim
(Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
It's been downhill for those folks since 5/29/1453
6 posted on
09/04/2005 8:31:39 PM PDT by
Mike Darancette
(Mesocons for Rice '08)
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
It's not really clear whether the Muslims have ever had a real civilization, or have merely conquered various other civilizations and built on them until they were destroyed by the essential barbarity of Islam.
But you don't need a civilization to conquer and destroy. The Arabs have been very good at that.
No, they won't defeat anyone by employing military force. But they will defeat them by exploiting their weakness and decadence.
I don't see demographic growth is weakening the Muslims. Far from it. Demographic shrinkage is weakening Europe and Japan, and to some extent the U.S. These countries are forced to take in Muslim immigrants or, in the case of Japan, to export more and more of their industrial production to other countries.
The Huns were not civilized or militarily sophisticated, but the overran the Roman Empire. The Mongols overran most of the world, and they were not exactly civilized either.
This article gives food for thought, but it's not persuasive.
7 posted on
09/04/2005 8:34:39 PM PDT by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
Sounds about right to me.
I subscribe to Fukuyama's "End of History."
Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations" is rubbish.
10 posted on
09/04/2005 8:38:54 PM PDT by
Hess28
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
Things are indeed bad in the Arab world and will get much worse.
One can only hope.
11 posted on
09/04/2005 8:39:43 PM PDT by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
"Arab civilization" is an oxymoron. Even with there gross
displays of wealth they still live under a 7th century
ideology.
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
macroeconomic geopolitical ping.
13 posted on
09/04/2005 8:45:35 PM PDT by
mmercier
(in what way princes must keep faith)
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
Has anyone noticed that when New Orleans decended into complete anarchy it was still at least as civilized as your average "arab civilization" ?
15 posted on
09/04/2005 8:47:28 PM PDT by
festus
(The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
If they didn't have oil reserves they'd be starving in the sand whole making love to their camels.
16 posted on
09/04/2005 8:50:16 PM PDT by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
Read this last night. Great to see a Proceedings article posted. I've read it cover to cover every month for the past 20 years, it is a fantastic resource that deals with so many subjects. Go Navy!!! P.S. be prepared for more falafel shops in the towns and by-ways of our great country.
18 posted on
09/04/2005 8:58:09 PM PDT by
wildcatf4f3
(Purge the land of Leftists and deadbeats)
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
No suprprise to me in light of Genesis 12:3. I guess Europe should watch out too.
1 Now the Lord said to Abram,
Go forth from your country,
And from your relatives
And from your fathers house,
To the land which I will show you;
2 And I will make you a great nation,
And I will bless you,
And make your name great;
And so you shall be a blessing;
3 And I will bless those who bless you,
And the one who curses you I will curse.
And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.
New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (Ge 12:1). LaHabra, CA: The Lockman Foundation.
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
God has cursed everyone that follows the lying, murdering, child molestor mohammad.
You'd think after about 1500 years or so they'd get the message.
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
Fantastic insight in this article, it should be sent to all the leaders of the world as a, MUST READ !
26 posted on
09/04/2005 9:07:31 PM PDT by
John Lenin
(When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around)
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
28 posted on
09/04/2005 9:09:38 PM PDT by
GOPJ
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
29 posted on
09/04/2005 9:16:05 PM PDT by
Marauder
(You can't stop sheep-killing predators by putting more restrictions on the sheep.)
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
Interestingly, on the Arab League's website there is a paper that details all of the contributions made by Arab civilization. It is a long and impressive list, which unfortunately marks 1406 as the last year a significant contribution was made. That makes next year the 600th anniversary of the beginning of a prolonged stagnation, which began a dive into the abyss with the end of the Ottoman Empire. Final collapse has been staved off only by the cash coming in from a sea of oil and because of a few bright spots of modernity that have resisted the general failure. This is why things will get worse before they get better.
30 posted on
09/04/2005 9:17:24 PM PDT by
denydenydeny
("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
The analysis does not seem to recognize that the mortal security threat of terrorism is spurred, not diminished, by the demographic and developmental conditions in the Arab world. In addition, burgeoning non-Arab Islamic populations and regimes have similar imbalances that foster violence and religious extremism. Finally, the West's insatiable need for oil renders a containment strategy implausible and provides ready financing for terrorism.
Arab civilization may be heading for collapse, as the author contends, but barbarian tribes conquered Rome, the Arabs took Byzantium, and the Mongols devastated Baghdad and conquered China. High civilizations can fall prey to masses of violent warriors from their uncivilized periphery. We would be fools to think that we are immune to a similar fate at the hands of Islamic terrorism and waves of immigrants hostile to our infidel existence.
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
No suprprise to me in light of Genesis 12:3. I guess Europe should watch out too.
1 Now the Lord said to Abram,
Go forth from your country,
And from your relatives
And from your fathers house,
To the land which I will show you;
2 And I will make you a great nation,
And I will bless you,
And make your name great;
And so you shall be a blessing;
3 And I will bless those who bless you,
And the one who curses you I will curse.
And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.
New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (Ge 12:1). LaHabra, CA: The Lockman Foundation.
To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
He's wrong... WHY?
Apostasy(leaving Islam) is punishable by death. Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Quran; Surah Vol. 9:57
Islam has a strong murderological base... ACT LIKE YOU BELIEVE IT OR DIE!...
36 posted on
09/04/2005 9:36:13 PM PDT by
hosepipe
(This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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