They kicked some Muslim A$$ back then too.
We've been at this way too long. Need to put an end to it, once and for all.
They're bad, we're good. Wipe 'em off the face of the earth.
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Downhill? That is the end of Eastern Roman/Greek civilization and the beginning of darkness for Christian civilization in Eastern and southern Europe.
Muslims were in their ascendancy in the East.
The West was another story.