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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: WVNan
Thanks. I would love to have seen his account of the storm itself.

They evacuated to Florida for the duration of the storm, so they didn't actually experience Katrina (for which they are thankful)

1,221 posted on 09/05/2005 10:49:56 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: Cedar

I'm really not tune into the discussion, but there is a difference between a terrorist attack and a natural disaster.

Federalization of troops during a terrorist attack is a given, it is not usually the case during a natural disaster.

But under the "Insurrection Act" the President if she is/was not willing to ask, the President could have declared the state and local governments "unable or unwilling" to care for their citizens, thus invoking the act.

Of course, if Bush had sent in Federal troops early, we'd be hearing the MSM bash Bush. Only this time it would be bashing him because troops were sent in too soon and he usurped the state's authority.

The man can't win with the MSM, never has, but he always comes out fine, and their bashing usually backfires on them.


1,222 posted on 09/05/2005 10:51:04 AM PDT by dawn53
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Does anyone know what thread that picture of Geraldo holding that baby was in???
1,223 posted on 09/05/2005 10:51:31 AM PDT by Fawn (Being a FREE COUNTRY doesn't mean EVERYTHING'S FOR FREE!!!!!!!)
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To: Dolphy

is it untrue, then prove it.


1,224 posted on 09/05/2005 10:51:37 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: oceanview

I could tell horror stories.

Everyone down there will pile on the gravy train. Large sums of money will be spent without any documentation. Leadership jobs will be handed out to family members and friends. People with zero skills will be in charge of major projects and huge sums of money. The waste will be enormous.

Right now, they're poisoning the well to provide themselves cover for all of this. The Louisiana political machine needs to be unseated NOW.


1,225 posted on 09/05/2005 10:52:19 AM PDT by montanus
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To: Cedar
Taking charge of chaotic situations that overwhelm state and local authorities is FEMA's whole reason for exisiting.

For goodness sakes, why is it that I keep seeing you posting critical comments and asking for others to defend the President. Evacuating the city, getting people to secure shelters where they would be provided food and water and employing every resource to get them there should not have overwhelmed this city. This isn't a week long event...its months and months and months of managing both the displaced and the rebuilding.

1,226 posted on 09/05/2005 10:52:44 AM PDT by Dolphy
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To: maryz
The majority of people who stayed there did so out of stupidity or because they wanted to loot. If they have left all this tragedy would have be reduced mostly to material losses rather than seeing the human suffering and the shame of committing looting and crimes as many did after the hurricane.
1,227 posted on 09/05/2005 10:54:05 AM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: OKIEDOC

please take your speculations off this thread.


1,228 posted on 09/05/2005 10:54:17 AM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: RDTF
They said they would have to have been reporting what they were doing up the ladder leading up to it.

They may have been reporting, but I suspect they were reporting that they had everything under control. Do you think Nagin reported early that he didn't have a clue what was going on (I gather their communications network was out of commission and that various agencies had incompatible equipment)? Maybe not, but didn't Nagin and/or Blanco deny early reports of shootings?

1,229 posted on 09/05/2005 10:54:27 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Dolphy

Dear Dolphy,

Please go back and reread my post. Those were NOT my comments.

Thank you.


1,230 posted on 09/05/2005 10:54:45 AM PDT by Cedar
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To: RDTF

Did anyone else hear the official from Houston who spoke on FOX earlier? He talked about the change in the state's earlier approximation of the number of survivors they could take care of.

He stumbled a bit and explained that the survivors were individuals with needs not previously anticipated. He even spoke of the policing needed.

Sad. So many of the survivors are good people who suffered a tragedy which could have happened to anyone of us. They deserve our kindest, most generous "hand up."

The criminal element destroys so much.


1,231 posted on 09/05/2005 10:55:02 AM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Cedar
"but even if she hadn't, the POTUS has the authority to send the NG without governors' permission - he did so immediately after 911..."

That statement is not correct. The NG is under the Governor's command. Not the President's. The Guard does not fall under the President's command until it has been federalized...with the approval of the state. 9/11 does not apply here because that was a matter of National Security, and Guard assets used immediately after the initial strikes were Guard assets already assigned the role. No Guard troops were deployed without the direct coordination and approval of the Governors in command of those Guard units.

1,232 posted on 09/05/2005 10:55:36 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: plushaye
LOL. Both Blanco and Landrieu have not shown good leadership skills. They're both embarassments. Same with Nagin.

A convoy of 100 surgeons and paramedics in a state-of-the-art mobile hospital was marooned in rural Mississippi as of Sunday, AP reported, because Louisiana officials would not let them into the New Orleans area.

1,233 posted on 09/05/2005 10:56:06 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: dawn53
Of course, if Bush had sent in Federal troops early, we'd be hearing the MSM bash Bush.

I'm inclined to go with those FReepers who think the left would have claimed it as grounds for impeachment, overstepping his constitutional authority. (Not that some of those moonbats need actual grounds!)

1,234 posted on 09/05/2005 10:57:13 AM PDT by maryz
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To: comitatus
You're getting a gold star on your paper, young man!
1,235 posted on 09/05/2005 10:57:21 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Soul Seeker

Sean Hannity has him (Gingrich) on his radio show all the time. I've started listenting to CDs on the way home from work.

Sean was too tabloid for my tastes.


1,236 posted on 09/05/2005 10:58:24 AM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: FreedomCalls
Someone may have already given you this info...just in case here's an excellent thread authored by a fellow FReeper:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1477374/posts

1,237 posted on 09/05/2005 10:58:31 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: SauronOfMordor

I hope somebody has had the foresight to keep all these terric links filed so that we can easily get to them later. They are going to be a fount of information later.


1,238 posted on 09/05/2005 10:58:37 AM PDT by publana
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To: jveritas
The majority of people who stayed there did so out of stupidity or because they wanted to loot.

Well, you apparently know more of them personally than I do.

1,239 posted on 09/05/2005 10:59:11 AM PDT by maryz
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To: RDTF

the left has been successful, in part, of making alot of americans believe that the federal government is their "nanny" - from cradle to grave.


1,240 posted on 09/05/2005 10:59:26 AM PDT by oceanview
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