As Last Refugees Escape, New Orleans Turns to Its Dead

AP ^ | Sep 4, 2005 | Allen G. Breed

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National Hurricane Director had to call Nagin at home Saturday night to plead: "Get people out..."
Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | Sun, Aug. 28, 2005 | BY MARC CAPUTO, DAVID OVALLE AND ERIKA BOLSTAD


Posted on 09/03/2005 2:14:14 PM CDT by joinedafterattack


MAYOR CRITICIZED EVEN BEFORE LEVY BREAK. National Hurricane Center Director had to call Nagin at home Saturday night to plead: "Get people out of New Orleans." "The criticisms of Nagin came from above as well. Numerous officials urged him to evacuate the city, but he worried about the legality of ordering people out when New Orleans has few safe hurricane shelters. Also, National Hurricane Center Director Max Mayfield in Miami called Nagin at home Saturday night and told him: Get people out of New Orleans.

''I could never sleep if I felt like I didn't do everything that I could to impress upon people the gravity of the situation,'' Mayfield said. ``New Orleans is never going to be the same.''

When a grim Nagin issued the mandatory evacuation order Sunday, he said: ``We are facing a storm that most of us have feared . . . God bless us.''

[uncitizen]

he (Nagin) worried about the legality of ordering people out when New Orleans has few safe hurricane shelters.

This is "school bus logic".

[Uncle Ike]

"As LAST refugees escape.."

What??

I know I've been getting a much-needed 8 hours of sleep, but I think I would have heard in the hour that I've been up that the NG and CG had abandoned the house-to-house rescue/recovery effort.

Did I miss something?

[Jet Jaguar]

I think the AP is missing something, not you.

[SauronOfMordor]

He had some problems last year from the ACLU over an evac order for Ivan. The argument was that if the city orders an evac, it creates a legal obligation to provide transport to anybody without a car. And city-provided transport MUST bring them to a stocked shelter -- can't just transport them out of the path of the hurricane and drop them on the street in Houston

[KneelBeforeZod]

I hear relief supplies are backed up with all the lawyers rushing to the scene. wont be long before the lawsuits and payouts begin

[uncitizen]

They could've stocked the Convention Center and the Superdome. Or brought them to shelters further north. The governor could've made that happen. But, what am i thinking. The governor can't make anything happen.

[SauronOfMordor]

The bottom line is that fear of what the ACLU would say has likely resulted in the deaths of thousands

Thanks, ACLU

[uncitizen]

The bottom line is that fear of what the ACLU would say has likely resulted in the deaths of thousands

You are right on. That's i'm sure the reason that looters weren't shot on sight.

I heard one doctor on Fox saying he was treating people with bullet wounds. Certainly they'll eventually find many of the dead still in water who had been shot. The libs will say they were shot by police or NG or military.

[jazzlite]

"He had some problems last year from the ACLU over an evac order for Ivan. The argument was that if the city orders an evac, it creates a legal obligation to provide transport to anybody without a car. And city-provided transport MUST bring them to a stocked shelter -- can't just transport them out of the path of the hurricane and drop them on the street in Houston."

The sad and adverse consequences of ACLU actions will continue to roll in as time goes on. Unfortunately, most of the consequences will be harder than this one to track back to the source. A credible media would report the genesis of the Mayor's decision here. I'll bet he felt threatened by what the ACLU would do to him if he forced an evacuation. People in all kinds of situations and professions are refusing to take any responsibility for making decisions simply because a mistake would destroy their lives under a legal system and a media gone wild. Thank God, George Bush is courageous enough to begin taking action, even before the dust clears in these terrible crisis, because he is willing to step up to his responsibilities and take the vicious heat for not achieving perfection in a situation that only God could handle. I'll tell you one thing..I am sick of the small minds and the lack of knowledge, education, training and experience I have heard expressed in this media. It is distressing to witness and to listen to their persecution of those who were risking their lives to save these precious people, those doing the best they can, in hell, to rescue the suffering and the fallen. Arm chair referees, they were, the myopic media, there on the scene who only had to TALK..They were not out there in the worst of it, piloting those helicopters, using their physical strength to pull people out of that water and off those roofs, and going out to expose themselves to snipers, etc. We all think we know what we would do in this circumstance or that but until we are confronted to the initial chaos of any terrible crisis, we do not KNOW what we would do. The President, the Congress, The Mayor of New Orleans, and the Heads of all these Agencies, had to assess this chaotic situation as the information came in, then the resources had to be rounded up, etc., etc. All that takes time and for a handful of people who live in the secure, luxurious residences of New York and the Hamptons to sit back and take potshots continuously at our leaders tells me a lot about who they are. My trust is gone..FOX, shame on you!

[DB]

It really is pathetic that they couldn't evacuate people to somewhere other than an unprepared death trap. They knew people would likely be stuck there for several days and that it would be hard to reach them after the storm. They could have brought in water, food and portable toilets before the storm hit. It was obvious there wasn't going to be water or sewage after the hurricane. What did they expect was going to happen???

[parabellum]

it's interesting that the MSM is trying to inject race into this.like,"most of the victims were black".well DUH! new orleans is 70% black.did they exspect the victims to be chinese?what retards.you'll notice that most of the rescuers are white,and most of the looters are black.of course no one mentions that.i used to live in new orleans.a more corrupt city you will not find.the governor is in charge of the national guard.where was she?the mayor has spent millions of federal dollars practicing for this.where was he?the chief of police had 1500 officers under his control.where was he?we had rudy guliani.he didn't run and hide.he stepped into the breech and let everyone know who was in charge.those democrates won't lift a finger during a crises,then whine that W didn't save them from their own stupidity.si vis pacem,para bellum

[Caipirabob]

Great post. You know, on the weather channel the major thing I remember is the near military looking reporter stating, no... pleading with viewers "This storm is going to change everything - you need to get out!".

IMHO the Weather Channel saved many, many lives.

[chainsaw]

Jessee Jackassson doesn't like them being called refugees. But that is exactly what they are. Get with it Jessee, Stop reading the bible and start reading the dictioary in your spare time between your race bating blackmail attempts on business.

M-Webster-Refugee:
Etymology: French réfugié, past participle of (se) réfugier to take refuge, from Latin refugium.

[IrishRainy]

When the announcement went out about seeking shelter at the Super Dome, it said to bring enough food and water for 3 days. Since they began arriving on Sunday night, IF they followed instructions, their supplies would have lasted until some time Wednesday. It's not like this was supposed to be a hosted affair. N.O. was merely supplying the locale in which to safely ride out Katrina.

[uncitizen]

i understand that. i was addressing Nagins excuse that legally he couldn't transport people to a shelter unless it had supplies.

but again this is just his way of CYAing for not using the school buses and city buses to get the people out of harms way.

[ncountylee]

He will try any excuse and hopes to hit one that the MSM will run with. In the meantime, pass that pipe bro.