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Disintegration of New Orleans police slowed response: guard commander
AFP ^ | Sep 3, 2005 | Staff

Posted on 09/04/2005 12:45:08 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

The National Guard was slow to move troops into New Orleans because it did not anticipate the collapse of the city's police force after Hurricane Katrina, the guard's commander said.

Lieutenant General Steven Blum said the New Orleans police force was left with only a third of its pre-storm 1,500-person strength.

Some police had families caught up in the disaster, others were unable to make it back to their precincts because of the flooding, and yet others left their posts after deciding the situation had grown too dangerous.

"The real issue, particularly in New Orleans, is that no one anticipated the disintegration or the erosion of the civilian police force in New Orleans," Blum told reporters here.

"Once that assessment was made ... then the requirement became obvious," he said. "And that's when we started flowing military police into the theater."

On Friday, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin angrily denounced the slow federal response as too little, too late, charging that promised troops had not arrived in time.

"Now get off your asses and let's do something and fix the biggest goddamn crisis in the history of this country," the mayor said in remarks aired on CNN.

Blum said that since Thursday some 7,000 National Guard and military police had moved into the city.

But he said any suggestion that the National Guard had not performed well or was late was a "low blow."

The initial priority of the Louisiana and Mississippi National Guard forces was disaster relief, not law enforcement, because they expected the police to handle that, he said.

"We were pulsing forces in in very degraded infrastructure -- airports had reduced capabilities ... in some cases we only had one road in because of lack of bridges, flooding, loss of infrastructure," he said.

"So we couldn't rush to failure on this thing and we had to take a more measured approach on this thing than any of us wanted," he said.

When it became apparent that disorder in New Orleans should be the most immediate priority, the National Guard waited until they had enough forces in hand to make an overwhelming show of force, he said.

On Friday, while President George W. Bush was touring the stricken city, 1,000 military police and National Guard stormed the convention center where street gangs mixed in with thousands of others awaiting rescue had created a volatile situation, Blum said.

"Had we gone in with a lesser force we may have been challenged, innocents may have been caught in a fight between the guard and military police and those who did not want to be processed or apprehended," he said.

Bush, under intense criticism for the slow federal response, on Saturday ordered an additional 7,000 active duty and reserve ground troops to reinforce the National Guard.

That would raise the level of US military forces committed to the relief effort -- active duty as well as national guard and reserves -- to more than 50,000 by the end of next week.

Blum said that on Saturday there were 27,000 national guard troops in Louisiana and Mississippi. That number will grow to about 40,000 within the next week, he said.

There were varying estimates of the number of active duty troops already in the area as part of the relief of operations before Bush's order.

Major General Joseph Inge, deputy commander of the US Northern Command, put the number of active duty forces already on the ground at nearly 5,000 while Blum estimated the active force at 7,000, including sailors aboard navy ships.

The additional troops ordered in from the active force include 2,500 soldiers from the 82nd Airborne Division, 2,700 from the 1st Cavalry Division and 2,000 from the 1st and 2nd Marine Expeditionary Forces.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: grossincompetence; hurricane; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; nagin; nopd
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To: calreaganfan
So you're telling me that in order to post an important news story on FR, one has to use the same headline as a biased French news service?!? The title of my thread accurately reflected the content of the story which is that two-thirds of New Orleans' police officers have gone missing.

So you're telling me that I don't get to make up my own rules, that I don't get to do as I please on someone else's site? LOL. Welcome to conservatism. Ping us when you have your site up and running.

61 posted on 09/04/2005 1:24:12 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

As the details dribble out it is going to comeback and hit all the jerks in the face screaming "it's Bush's fault".


62 posted on 09/04/2005 1:24:45 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Admin Moderator

"Hint: Tone it down and knock it off"

Tone what down? Knock what off? Free speech? Am I really on a "conservative" website? Unbelievable.


63 posted on 09/04/2005 1:25:38 AM PDT by calreaganfan
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To: calreaganfan

Learn how to post correctly and it wouldn't have been a problem.


64 posted on 09/04/2005 1:25:46 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: uncitizen
DRAT! I shut of the set, so I missed it. :-(

Many thanks for the info.

65 posted on 09/04/2005 1:25:53 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: calreaganfan
Your threads were pulled because they were not posted correctly.

Your posting privileges may be revoked if you continue the personal attacks.
66 posted on 09/04/2005 1:26:13 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Mo1
The last time?

No...no, I think THIS is the last time. :-)

Sorry, I'm punchy.

67 posted on 09/04/2005 1:26:26 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: calreaganfan

https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/


69 posted on 09/04/2005 1:27:31 AM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: calreaganfan

Censorship can only be done by the Gov't.

This site is owned by Mr. Robinson.


70 posted on 09/04/2005 1:28:20 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Your threads were pulled because they were not posted correctly.

But the rules are so hard....


71 posted on 09/04/2005 1:28:40 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

"personal attacks"

Is using the term "Stalinist" a personal attack? You said "attacks" plural. Please inform me what "personal attacks" I have made.


72 posted on 09/04/2005 1:28:42 AM PDT by calreaganfan
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To: calreaganfan

"Am I really on a "conservative" website? Unbelievable."

At this point consider it tough love via group therapy.


73 posted on 09/04/2005 1:28:50 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Ken H
I doubt they'll be salivating for long. I expect that the next Katrina appropriations bill will probably give immunity to the City of New Orleans and the State of Louisiana. After all it will be fairly counterproductive to allow a city to be sued for billions when it desperately needs the money to rebuild. Hopefully the future Congressional hearings will have the heads of the mayor, governor, and their cronies (including AWOL officers).

There can be no justice in this case. How do you get justice when someone who is responsible for the deaths of thousands? I don't think it is possible.
74 posted on 09/04/2005 1:29:00 AM PDT by burzum
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To: calreaganfan

You don't take hints very well, do you?


75 posted on 09/04/2005 1:29:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: TheOtherOne

LOL.......I'm pretty revolted right now.


76 posted on 09/04/2005 1:29:13 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: TheOtherOne

LOL!


77 posted on 09/04/2005 1:31:08 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Howlin
LOL.......I'm pretty revolted right now.

Then you'll love my last post, at 61.

78 posted on 09/04/2005 1:31:19 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: TheOtherOne

er, post 71.


79 posted on 09/04/2005 1:32:12 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: leadpenny
This is reminding me of a scene from Ruthless People when the police shot the tires out on Bill Pullman's car when he was trying to steal some money from Danny DeVito and he WHINED about it. The policeman said, "This may be the stupidest person I've ever seen; perhaps we should shoot him."
80 posted on 09/04/2005 1:34:02 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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