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Bulldoze New Orleans
My fertile mind ^ | 9/2/05 | rebelbase

Posted on 09/03/2005 1:44:14 PM PDT by Rebelbase

Rebuilding New Orleans below sea level is just asking for another disaster even if the levee's are strengthened.

Bulldoze the city except for the downtown and French Quarter and fill it in with spoils from Lake Ponchartrain. The lake is very shallow and could supply the material necessary to fill in the city.

This city is too important to national commerce to just abandon.



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To: Torie

20+ years ago there was a drive-in movie theater I'd go to in Waynesville, NC with a railroad beside it. Once a night a locomotive would come by and drown out the screen with it's headlight for a few moments before it passed by.


121 posted on 09/03/2005 4:13:01 PM PDT by Rebelbase ("Run Hillary Run" bumper stickers. Liberals place on rear bumper, conservatives put on front bumper)
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To: AntiGuv; JockoManning; auggy; Alamo-Girl; ExSoldier; All
WILL TRY and see how it comes out.

THE ABOVE IS A SITE WITH A LIST OF SUCH LINKS TO SUCH MAPS

A BUNCH of NEW MADRID stuff is at this link:

HERE: http://www.greatdreams.com/madrid.htm

In the map below, the black areas are supposed to be above water after the shifts occur. The diagonal lines are current water.

FROM:

HERE: http://www.baproducts.com/cannon.htm

ANOTHER BELOW WITH A COUPLE OF SERIES OF DEVASTATIONS DRAWN:

FROM: HERE: http://www.baproducts.com/ashton.htm

SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT MORE of these sorts of things than the last time I checked many months ago.

FROM:

HERE: http://www.baproducts.com/chetmap.htm

ANOTHER somewhat interesting site though I don't like the heavy duty NEW AGE stuff at all.

HERE: http://www.bright.net/~gshaffer/earthchange.htm

ANOTHER STRANGE site with no maps:

HERE.

GRAVITY MAP BELOW:

FROM:

HERE: http://members.aol.com/rafleet/hazmaps.htm

ALSO AT THE SAME SITE:

ABOUT IT.

Please read discerningly.

I have no real confidence that any of them are essentially correct. However, I feel that some things are definitely going to happen to submerge most of California. Maybe Phoenix will become a seaport. Also most of Florida--especially the Southern half. A major new gulf up to the Great Lakes from the Gulf of Mexico.

So, we shall see which of these will turn out to be mostly true and which mostly or totally false.

122 posted on 09/03/2005 4:16:19 PM PDT by Quix (GOD IS LOVE and full of mercy HE IS ALSO JUST & fiercely HOLY. Cultures choosing death shall have it)
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To: Rebelbase
It's all very well to condemn other people's life's work and holdings. Let those who want to rebuild New Orleans go ahead and rebuild it.

I notice that every time the seashore along North Carolina is wiped out FEMA rushes in with funds to rebuild the beach mansions along the shifting sand. Homes that slide away in a sea of mud in California are quickly rebuilt.
These are decisions for individuals to make.

Besides, the best part of New Orleans is not the French Quarter, which is a tourist trap. The best parts are the Garden District, Lakeview and other residential areas where some of the most beautiful homes in American can be found.

New Orleans has been around for a long time and I predict it will be around for a long time in the future.
123 posted on 09/03/2005 4:19:25 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Rebelbase
It's all very well to condemn other people's life's work and holdings. Let those who want to rebuild New Orleans go ahead and rebuild it.

I notice that every time the seashore along North Carolina is wiped out FEMA rushes in with funds to rebuild the beach mansions along the shifting sand. Homes that slide away in a sea of mud in California are quickly rebuilt.
These are decisions for individuals to make.

Besides, the best part of New Orleans is not the French Quarter, which is a tourist trap. The best parts are the Garden District, Lakeview and other residential areas where some of the most beautiful homes in American can be found.

New Orleans has been around for a long time and I predict it will be around for a long time in the future.
124 posted on 09/03/2005 4:20:09 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: proudofthesouth

Heck, Chicago got raised about 8 feet when they put in underground sewers many years ago. There are still a lot of houses with two front doors, one right over another.


125 posted on 09/03/2005 4:22:13 PM PDT by Thebaddog (How's yer dogs?)
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To: HIDEK6

The many times we visited New Orleans we had to run thru flooding streets as it rained almost every visit. I'll miss Biloxi too & the beautiful homes on the north side of 90 (along with the Isle of Capri, Grand etc.) We almost moved there a few years ago. So sad.


126 posted on 09/03/2005 4:24:42 PM PDT by jrcats
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To: Quix

Thanks. Hopefully the Lord will allow time for people to move to other areas in time to be spared. That's certainly my prayer for all my loved ones.

Interesting balancing act for me to pay attention to the signs of the times and also keep my faith strong in the Lord and my ears opened to hear from Him.

And also I try to ask God for wisdom and be obedient to the Lord rather than do anything through my own efforts apart from Him in the face of these drastic changes for the USA and the whole world.


127 posted on 09/03/2005 4:44:35 PM PDT by JockoManning (http://www.biblegateway.com)
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To: Vinnie; deport

Thanks. Good stuff.


128 posted on 09/03/2005 4:45:12 PM PDT by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus.)
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To: Quix

I like that first map - it's about what I had in mind. It puts me right above the waterfront in the midst of the Appalachian Archipelago. I can even pretend the Cherokee Channel™ is a fjord!

Anyhow, thanks! This should provide some entertainment when I have a chance to peruse the maps. It'd be nice if there were more than the vaguest semblance (if any) of geologic rationale to most of them, but that's OK.


129 posted on 09/03/2005 4:55:38 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick)
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To: Rebelbase
Rebuild it!

After everything, do you think any insurance company would offer policies for this area?

130 posted on 09/03/2005 4:57:58 PM PDT by airborne
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To: Vinnie

Buying out those residences might not be as expensive as it appears. They're mostly ruined now anyway and, one way or another, we're going to have to pay for rebuilding them. It's far better to pay for rebuilding them once, high and dry, than to be exposed to the same liability again.

After the Mississippi River floods the Federal Government relocated people out of the flood plain and built them new houses on the condition that the Government would not be liable again if they moved back to the flood plain, as far as I remember. Some other Freeper may know more about this project than I do.


131 posted on 09/03/2005 5:00:07 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Abcdefg

You wrote "Dynamite ALL the levies, then build only on what is dry."

Excellent plan. Makes too much sense to be done.


132 posted on 09/03/2005 5:00:22 PM PDT by 11B40 (times change, people don't)
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To: Abcdefg
Dynamite ALL the levies, then build only on what is dry

Yup. But for this to happen governmental agencies would have to adopt a common sense approach to problem solving.

I figure the odds of that are pretty low.
133 posted on 09/03/2005 5:06:21 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: 11B40

The Dutch in Holland would certainly disagree with that idea!!!


134 posted on 09/03/2005 5:10:44 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My Governor has morphed into the "FLINCHINATOR!!!")
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To: jwalsh07

Really a very good idea. I visited Venice once several years ago and was never so impressed by a working city. You get to it by crossng a causeway, and find yourself in something like a real world Renissance Disney World. You can get around the city only one of two ways--by boat or by foot. The canals being so narrow, boat speed is restricted to about 5 m.ph. All of this means it's just like stepping back in time for about 600 years, except most modern amenities are still there and the city's mostly for tourists. This means the welfare/criminal class isn't there any more than it's present at Disney World.


135 posted on 09/03/2005 5:15:58 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Delta 21
.... Get the fill from the delta.....

The area is said to be subsiding. Adding the weight of fill may only increase the subsistence of the essentially liquid subsoils.

I did damage assessment in an area that had been flooded by a large creek. Many nice houses had severe flooding, enough for them to be totaled. The feds came in and surveyed the area and would not allow rebuilding within the 50 year flood plain. I am aware of at least two other East Tennessee flood prone areas where rebuilding within the 50 year flood contour was prohibited.

I know of two Southwest Virginia towns that were/are being moved out of the flood plain. The old existing towns are torn down and new ones built on higher ground.

Pretty much all of NO is within the flood plain. If current law/regulation is enforced in NOLA the same as in the rest of the country, rebuilding in many areas will not be permitted.

This is not rules by the evvirowackos, it is FEMA saving people from catastrophic losses.
136 posted on 09/03/2005 5:22:03 PM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . The wild winds of fortune will carry us onward)
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To: Rebelbase
Rebuild a portion of old New Orleans around the french quarter and CBD as a special economic area - gaming - etc. - behind levees.

Get rid of the lake ponchartrain causeway and the low bridges blocking access to lake borgne and ponchartrain from the gulf.

The distance between the Mississippi river and Lake Ponchartrain, just south of Laplace - is 4.5 miles (map thumbnails below are clickable links).

Image hosted by PicsPlace.to

Dredge a canal - BIG canal - here, as needed to the north side of Ponchartrain, and on to the the gulf through Lake Borgne.

Relocate the Mississippi River ports south of Laplace/Norco to the north shore of lake ponchartrain. Thus the port of South Louisiana is now the North Shore of Ponchartrain, across the Laplace canal to the Mississippi, and up the Mississippi to Baton Rouge.

Image hosted by PicsPlace.to

As far as restoring the marshlands of SE Louisiana, put a river control structure in at Norco. Bust all the levees south of there except around the New Orleans special economic center. When the spring floods come - let the Mississippi flood the delta south of there and start restoring the marshlands.

That'll do the trick... (until the Old River Control Structure fails and the Atchafalaya becomes the Mississippi...)

137 posted on 09/03/2005 5:23:39 PM PDT by muffaletaman
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To: libstripper

Yup, thats the idea in a nutshell. Preserve the French Quarte etc and remake New Orleans into a quaint Old Town while allowing nature to work its wonders. Build new developments and smaller towns on higher ground where the workers will live and have mass transit to get them into New New Orleans and get their asses out in a hurry when the next Cat 4 hits.


138 posted on 09/03/2005 5:36:37 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: libstripper

I was in Venice in 1968. Long long ago. If you saw no crime then you were not a young woman walking around. Scary smelly place.


139 posted on 09/03/2005 5:38:50 PM PDT by Mercat (God loves us where He finds us.)
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To: Quix

I love this one showing Phoenix at 1,200' above sea level high and dry and Las Vegas at 2,200' above sea level under water. Somebody is hoping a little too hard that "Sin City" - and almost every other major American city - gets wiped out.

Dr. Chet Snow must be a Denver resident. ;)

140 posted on 09/03/2005 6:09:39 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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