Posted on 09/03/2005 7:39:12 AM PDT by kellynla
Q: What's next?
A: The bill must go before the Assembly, which rejected an identical bill earlier this year 37-36. Proponents of gay marriage are now fiercely lobbying four Democratic lawmakers – including Assemblyman Tom Umberg of Santa Ana – who did not cast votes when the Assembly rejected the earlier bill.
Umberg said he doesn't know what he'll do. "That's a big question. Assuming the bill comes up, my vote will be decided as a matter of conscience. It's a vote of historic proportions. I recognize that. But I'm still reading and thinking about it," he said.
Q:If the bill passes and the governor signs it, what happens?
A: The new law would be immediately challenged in courts by gay-marriage opponents, who would likely point to Prop. 22.
Q: If the bill dies, will the historic Senate vote Thursday have any effect?
A: Gay-marriage proponents say the event will be regarded as "a significant moment for gay rights in the nation," said Geoffrey Kors, executive director for Equality California.
Q:What are the laws in other states regarding gay marriage?
A: Connecticut and Vermont allow civil unions, which confer all the rights and privileges of marriage on gay couples. California already has domestic partnership laws that give gay couples legal rights.
Gay marriage: a fight on three fronts
LEGISLATURE
Assemblyman Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, has revived his bill that would redefine marriage as a union "between two people'' rather than just between a "man and a woman.'' The bill, AB849, narrowly passed the state Senate on Thursday, and it still must go before the Assembly and the governor before it can become law.
(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...
A: Even if the Assembly passes the bill, it has to go through the governor. The governor has never come out for or against gay marriage. Schwarzenegger spokeswoman Margita Thompson said the governor would abide by Proposition 22, the 2000 measure that defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman."
A: The bill must go before the Assembly, which rejected an identical bill earlier this year 37-36. Proponents of gay marriage are now fiercely lobbying four Democratic lawmakers -- including Assemblyman Tom Umberg of Santa Ana -- who did not cast votes when the Assembly rejected the earlier bill.
Excuse me. The Assembly already rejected it. They are under no obligation whatsoever to bring it to the floor again.
Excuse me but didn't the citizens of Cal. vote to protect marriage recently? What was the point of that vote if the legislators just ignore it. Why don't they just eliminate voting altogether? Then the dims don't have to bother with the messy task of overriding the will of the people.
Doesn't it take a 2/3 legislative vote to override a ballot initiative?
Remind him that the smoke from Sodom and Gomorrah rose so high and black it could be seen from a long way off.
"... Proposition 22, the 2000 measure that defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman."
I've been screeming and yelling about this for days. All of my state legislators have heard from me .. and they didn't like what they heard. Both of my reps are STINKING DEMOCRATS - AND one of them has already voted for it - but she's a lesbian - so I expected that.
This arrogance and flagrant misuse of their power is appalling. EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE ON THE PHONE YELLING AT THESE PEOPLE AND TELLING THEM PROP 22 - HAS ALREADY SPOKEN AND THEY CANNOT GO BEHIND OUR BACKS AND TRY TO DESTROY OUR VOTE. OUR VOTE SHOULD COUNT!!
before this over, I would imagine that it's going to take a United States Constitutional amendment to make marriage only between a woman and a man...
more "tail waggin' the dog" with these queers and the ACLU...
Tri-Valley HeraldLeno denies his bill runs afoul of Proposition 22 of 2000, a statutory ban on recognition of same-sex marriage approved by 61 percent of voters. That measure's 14-word dictum was chaptered as Family Code Section 308.5, but Section 308 reads, "A marriage contracted outside this state that would be valid by the laws of the jurisdiction in which the marriage was contracted is valid in this state." Leno said Proposition 22 only modified this section, and so only applies to marriages solemnized outside California.
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The bill fell four votes short of Assembly passage June 2. Hoping Senate approval would embolden his peers, Leno gutted and amended an unrelated bill to put same-sex marriage before the Senate, leading to Thursday's victory.
Leno and Equality California — aided by the United Farm Workers' late-June endorsement and active organizing on the bill's behalf — are leaning heavily on wavering Assembly members, especially Latinos who share with constituents a faith-based aversion to same-sex marriage. Conservatives are focusing on these same lawmakers.
Leno said his big Assembly push will focus on Democrats who abstained from June's vote: Jerome Horton of Inglewood, Gloria Negrete McLeod of Chino, Simon Salinas of Salinas and Tom Umberg of Anaheim.
Well .. if that's true .. then how did they get away with stopping Prop 187.
The people of CA better wake up and realize these idiots don't represnt us .. just themselves and their stinking liberal agenda.
Well, if I still trusted Arnold I would say the bill is dead. However, Arnold's promise to abide by Proposition 22 may be as hollow as his promise on taxes seems to be.
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