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By the time you need it, it is too late to buy the gun you need. This particularly true given the myriad of unconstitutional gun laws our legislative betters have burdened us with. Consider the lessons learned from the hurricane and take appropriate steps.
1 posted on 09/03/2005 6:54:46 AM PDT by RKV
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Has anyone heard if the CANNABILISM reported Friday by Randall Robertson, liberal black activist and president of Transafrica, is true?


2 posted on 09/03/2005 6:56:43 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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You make a good point, RKV.

Plundering tennis shoes and TVs, as a small thuggish minority has done, is another matter.

If is was only a small minority, then why did the mayor re-direct his entire police force to stop it? Why not just send out one or two squads to deal with the "small minority"?

3 posted on 09/03/2005 6:59:05 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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My wife and I were talking about that. After 9-11 and now this, it really gives you perspective on how bad things can get. We were talking last night about how we still really need to get at least one long gun for defense. And not only that, I'm starting to think about solar panels. Be nice to have the capability to power at minimum our water pump and boiler. gas generators wont be much use if there's no gas. sucks to think about it now, but it'd suck even worse to be a refugee. we're in nj, but i can tell you, this is red country, and looters wouldn't live very long up here. no thanks to me tho. it's a hassle in nj to get guns, but i need to do it.


4 posted on 09/03/2005 6:59:36 AM PDT by Huck (Looting makes GREAT television.)
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There is a culture of lawlessness in the lower classes, but particularly in the black 'community.' I'm glad it's been dragged into the light of day. Now there is a visual image to tie the dependency state to, to tie gangsta rap to, to tie apologist-pimps like Jesse Jackson to. These aren't victims of society, they're victimizers of society. They're only victims of their own lack of ambition, decency, and morals.
6 posted on 09/03/2005 7:00:28 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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The difference between the aftermath of Katrina and that of 9/11 is that the horror arising from the former was compounded by our own failings, while the inspiration that came from the latter arose from our strengths. In the end, the disgrace of Katrina is not the hurricane, but the fact that we did so much of the damage to ourselves.

Instead of rising to the challenge, the way Americans are wont to do (or at least believe we are), we collapsed beneath it.

This is not our finest hour.

8 posted on 09/03/2005 7:01:30 AM PDT by IronJack
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"Lawlessness in New Orleans is a national disgrace"

No it isn't. The disgraced are the ones who are acting criminal. They know who they are and so does the world.


9 posted on 09/03/2005 7:01:32 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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You have to give it to the author, he managed to
tie Iraq and New Orleans together in a single
twisted example to denigrate the president.
The democrat party ought to give him a medal
or a free trip to New Orleans.


10 posted on 09/03/2005 7:01:37 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Not just about government. About mankind and a world without God.

New Orleans is famous for what?

- Alcohol and partying
- Promiscuous sex
- Gambling

"The Big Easy", a place much like Pleasure Island from Pinocchio where there are no rules.

Such a place draws in those who know no God, and laws are made by men, therefore are made to be broken.

When the situation changes to one of survival, they don't gather together, pray, and work to survive together, it is "every man for himself".

There is a much bigger lesson here than many will realize.


12 posted on 09/03/2005 7:02:36 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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People in Fl, MS, AL, NY, never did the things that are happening in New Orleans after disasters they all endured.

They to endured many many disasters that would break the human spirit and yet they acted with grace under fire, one has to wonder why, these people in New Orleans raped, murdered, stabbed,while empty vials from coke were found, in Houston the police chief found 6 pistols and 12 knives that were attempted to be brought into the astrodome. And yet we are told these are the poorest amongst us but they can afford drugs like cocaine??

They even shot at the very people trying to assist and help.

This was not and is not the President's fault!



13 posted on 09/03/2005 7:03:29 AM PDT by stopem
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Somebody sent this to me. Maybe old news but some of the comments are interesting.
http://www.frycookonvenus.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1068


17 posted on 09/03/2005 7:05:54 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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I wonder ... how does this mayor and governor sleep at night ... KNOWING their winking at lawlessness permitted people who needed help to not get it and die.
19 posted on 09/03/2005 7:08:01 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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The differences between how Texas and La. are run are almost as striking as how NYC and NO are run. Both are like night and day.
You can't tell me that some of the problems in NO don't stem from mismanagement before and after the storm by local officials, not feds trying to lend a hand.
20 posted on 09/03/2005 7:08:02 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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48 hours is all it took talking about living on the knifes edge.

Makes all those apocalyptical (ahern johnstone) books I read in the 80's sound like the works of prophets.

22 posted on 09/03/2005 7:09:32 AM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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I expect the lawlessness will crank up the gun control crowd. It is imperative to get the message out loud and clear....the bad guys will get the guns anytime. In a situation such as this, if the good guys have no way to protect life & property, the good guys are doomed.


24 posted on 09/03/2005 7:09:41 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Sooner or later Ted is going to swing the camera over to Orlando's head!)
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Maybe it's that I've had 65 years worth of diverse experiences -- vs. the 20 somethings who have never been in this situation -- but IF MY family's survival depended on my ability to get necessary water, food and other items during a period when basic supply infrastructure systems have totally collapsed, I'd be out there getting what I needed to keep them fed and well ANY way -- short of a capital crime (IF POSSIBLE!) -- I could.

And, despite all the testosterone induced BS being flung around by these 20 somethings with limited life experiences and no kids to care for, SO WOULD THEY!!

What I would do that most of the current looters are probably NOT doing is leave a trail and record so I could make recompense to the establishment from which I obtained those items.

Having said that, these criminals seen carting away NON-ESSENTIAL ITEMS need to be prosecuted if they can be identified once order is restored.

Katrina proves that we are ALL -- and I DO mean A L L -- one short step away from "Lord of The Flies."

Which explains why I have significant stocks of freeze-dried, nitrogen packed foodstuffs close at hand.

And the means -- and will -- to defend me and mine.


26 posted on 09/03/2005 7:10:22 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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"But when it comes to its most elemental task of maintaining order and protecting property, it might not be up to the task when it is needed most."

Or of providing safety for it's citizens both BEFORE and AFTER the storm. The citizens of New orleans should have been evcuated before the storm, forcibly if need be.

29 posted on 09/03/2005 7:10:51 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Member since December 1998)
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I think this whole situation is sad, because it washed away all the heroism that happenned after September 11th. While that situation was scary, I think that everyone looked on in pride at the way that people responded as heroes and how the nation rose up again. You cannot say that here. The incidents of heroism I've seen in this tragedy have been few and far between. And the rapes and shooting at planes has been disgraceful. It's always depressing (and scary) when you find out that certain segments of the population hate America so much that they're willing to do that.


32 posted on 09/03/2005 7:12:56 AM PDT by Accygirl
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I love the "Escape From New York" reference!


33 posted on 09/03/2005 7:13:16 AM PDT by dennisw (***)
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New Orleans has provided a corrosive lesson about government. At all levels, government is overbearing and nagging, paying for people's prescription drugs and telling us whether we can smoke in restaurants or not. But when it comes to its most elemental task of maintaining order and protecting property, it might not be up to the task when it is needed most.

I don't think government can maintain order absent collective decency among the population.

In the case of New Orleans, my guess is, there was a minority of people, even among the "poor" that created lawlessness and chaos. There was an absense of "collective" decency. Yet already I have heard too many spokespersons excusing it as natural under the circumstances.

Others have blamed Bush for it. I've searched high and low and haven't yet seen Bush carrying a stolen TV set or pair of tennis shoes.

This disaster has created opportunities at many levels.

37 posted on 09/03/2005 7:14:22 AM PDT by stevem
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West Side Story - Gee, Officer Krupke Lyrics
Gee, Officer Krupke!
Music: Leonard Bernstein/Lyrics: Stephen Sondheim

RIFF:
Dear kindly Sergeant Krupke,
You gotta understand,
It's just our bringing up-ke
That get us out of hand.
Our mothers all are junkies,
Our fathers all are drunks,
Golly Moses, natcherly we're punks!

RIFF and QUARTET:
Gee. Officer Krupke, we're very upset;
We never had the love that every child oughta get
We ain't no delinquents,
We're misunderstood,
Deep down inside us there is good!

RIFF:
There is good!

ALL:
There is good, there is good,
There's an tapped good,
Like inside, the worst of us is good.

SNOWBOY(imitating Krupke):
That's a touchin' good story!

ACTION: Lemme tell you to the world!

SNOWBOY ("Krupke"):
Just tell it to the judge!

RIFF(to "Judge"):
Dear kindly Judge, your Honor,
My parents treat me rough,
With all the marijuana,
They won't give me a puff.
They didn't wanna have me,
But somehow I was had.
Leapin' lizards, that's why I'm so bad!

DIESEL ("Judge"):
Officer Krupke, you're really a square;
This boy don't need a judge, he needs an
analyst's care!
It's just his neurosis that oughta be curbed.
He's psychologic'ly disturbed!

RIFF:
I'm disturbed!

ALL:
We're disturbed. we're disturbed,
We're the most disturbed,
Like we're psychologic'ly disturbed.

DIESEL ("Judge"):
In the opinion of this court, this child is
depraved on account
he ain't had a normal home.

RIFF: Hey, I'm depraved on account I'm deprived!


41 posted on 09/03/2005 7:19:31 AM PDT by kabar
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