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1 posted on 09/02/2005 4:14:37 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
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Well, there you have it, folks.

This is proof positive that Free Republic can be far more informative than Bill O'Reily.

His guest Lawrence Guyot, a "Civil Rights activist" was typical fringe lunatic. They did not discuss important facts and how they relate to "Racial Storm Brewing", the title of that segment. They did not mention some of the crucial points that we have here.

A classic moment: Bill O'Reilly asked Gutot, "what would you do with the looters who have 5 big screen TVs in their homes."

Guyot's answer was, "If they were a professional looter, I would do something. But, if they looted 5 bis screen TVs to trade in for food later, I would leave them alone."

I never laughed that hard since this tragedy began.

Why is it so hard to get a sane black "activist" on? Why don't they talk to the many fine intelligent and astute black figures that are readily available to speak? Hell, Bill. Call me!

Incredible.
101 posted on 09/02/2005 5:47:08 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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Now show me the demographics on the assholes causing the post-hurricane-flooding misery.

That.......that will be the telling stat.


107 posted on 09/02/2005 6:01:47 PM PDT by RightOnline
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Your stats are perfectly relevant, and I fail to understand why folks on this thread don't get it. What we have going on in New Orleans now is a race riot, pure and simple.

Demographics for a given city should be approached with caution; much depends on where the city limits line (or parish line, or county line) is drawn. How much "suburban" area is incorporated into a given city? I would surmise that the lines are close-in in New Orleans, and that the city contains relatively little suburban-type territory. Like Washington and Atlanta, also unable to annex suburban areas, New Orleans is a black-majority city, but with a high income, highly educated white minority. What's largely missing, in New Orleans, Atlanta, Washington, and other centercities is middle-class areas.

So, New Orleans (within the city limits, not the metro area) is two-thirds black. Why, then, does it seem that 99% of the SuperDome refugees; 99% of the looters; 99% of the armed, roving gang members; 99% of the people on roofs and bridges are black? Several reasons suggest themselves. Economics, of course: the mostly upper-income whites either lived on higher ground, and/or had the means to leave. But, to be politically incorrect, it should be noted that even under "normal" circumstances, crime rates among blacks are exponentially higher than crime rates among whites. Let me be blunt: if New Orleans had been a white-majority city, the instances of looting, murder, and rape would have been far lower.

None of this is to suggest that the folks in New Orleans should be left to their own. Heroic efforts to save them, both public and private, continue. But the race baiters and the poverty pimps are out in force, even among the Fox News anchors. And that's a shame. Any suggestion that responses are slower in black areas than in white areas is unfounded.

113 posted on 09/02/2005 6:27:08 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (<<< Does Sudoku puzzles in ink. Lies about other things, too.)
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Based on the first 100 posts, when we wrap statistics around stereotypes, the discussion gets interesting.

And it could depend on the nature of the question. For example, using public transportation to get to work does not mean the respondent doesn't own a car - it just means that they don't use a car to get to work.

The simple fact behind the level of this disaster seems to be that somebody (namely, the mayor and staffers) should have read the disaster plans, realized that the walls were designed to protect from a Category 3 or less storm, and been prepared to get people out.

All the planning in the world does no good unless and until custodians of the public welfare are prepared and trained to implement the plans at minimum cost in lives, human welfare, and money.

The local government in New Orleans, and the state, failed to do what was needed to protect the citizens. Eventually, voters get the government they deserve.

120 posted on 09/02/2005 6:53:03 PM PDT by Bernard (Liberals like to talk about poll results because election results are too painful for them.)
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The blacks have a LOWER percapita income than the blacks' average across the USA.

The per capita income of blacks does not include Earned Income Credit, Food Stamps, Section 8 Housing and a number of other federal programs. Your "demographics" are meaningless.

124 posted on 09/02/2005 7:11:25 PM PDT by jackbill
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Fact: Food and Water should have been Airlifted into NO within hours of the Levees breaking and it becoming obvious how difficult it would be for help to arrive via ground.


126 posted on 09/02/2005 7:23:48 PM PDT by RHS in Fairfield
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Fact: President Bush, the Governors of Mississippi and Louisiana, and Alabama and the Mayors of the larger towns and cities, Members of Congress should move into the affected areas and set up living and working command and control centers.

Yes, the President should move to New Orleans with additional temporary "White House" locations in MS and AL. Of course all necessary and prudent security should be transfered, as well, along with the fullest possible communications technologies. The President and the others should be seen pitching in physically for some time every day doing some volunteer rescue activities, such as handing out food and water, patroling with the NG, etc.

This would demonstrate the extraordinary leadership based on real empathy and compassion, that is essential.

It would also make it possible to provide leadership based on truly holding the entire chain of command of every level of government responsible for turning the disaster around with no inexcusable delay tolerated.

This action would do more than anything else to turn the mob psychology that has resulted in so many horrible acts to be doused and to rekindle the better angels of the human nature in all the suffering souls in the region.


129 posted on 09/02/2005 7:37:21 PM PDT by RHS in Fairfield
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Fact: New Orleans and all other cities, towns, and villages that require rebuilding must not be rebuilt as they were, where they were.

New cities should be built from the ground up. The new cities can then be built according to the best scientific principles of site planning, architecture, engineering, city planning, infrastructure, communications, energy, and transport, etc.

This is how lemonade can be made from lemons.


130 posted on 09/02/2005 7:42:26 PM PDT by RHS in Fairfield
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ping for reference


148 posted on 09/03/2005 12:39:50 PM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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Thanks for the great info. Added it to my armory of facts.


150 posted on 09/03/2005 3:27:52 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you try to be smarter, I will try to be nicer.)
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