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Katrina Live Thread, Part XIV
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| 2 September 2005
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Posted on 09/02/2005 3:03:06 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: cgk
New Orleans has dodged the bullet so many times, that people didn't take this storm as seriously as they should-officials included. The common phrase you hear over and over is "It will turn". This time their luck ran out.
They are warning people how awful the city will look once the water has been drained. I don't think anyone knows what will become of New Orleans as this is such a unprecedented,tragic event. I never imagined when we moved here 4 years ago that we would be here for the "Big One".
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:42:56 AM PDT
by
LA Woman3
(On election day, they were driven to the polls...On evacuation day, they had to fend for themselves)
To: Types_with_Fist
The SuperDome is pretty fixable. Though I don't imagine the Saints ever returning there.
Scrape the human goo out. Steamclean, and voila, a stadium that would cost over a billion dollars to build from scratch.
Why the need to keep building stadiums that are used for eight home games a year is beyond me. Oh, the boat shows, too.
To: Alissa
I heard him. He's trying to get it through to people that this is an on-going disaster. The MSM thinks that because downtown NO is mostly evacuated that this is over. It isn't even close. I like the general.
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:43:35 AM PDT
by
Types_with_Fist
(I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
To: tbagot
The SuperDome is pretty fixable. Though I don't imagine the Saints ever returning there.
The Saints were wanting to leave New Orleans before Katrina....
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:45:30 AM PDT
by
LA Woman3
(On election day, they were driven to the polls...On evacuation day, they had to fend for themselves)
To: tbagot
Though I don't imagine the Saints ever returning there. No. That's over. I hope they don't let the door slam on their butts... especially owner Benson.
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:45:30 AM PDT
by
Types_with_Fist
(I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
To: Elyse
Glad to hear that. Our gutter-stuffer of a city paper, the AJC or Atlanta Urinal and Constipation had it's lead editorial pegging the rescue effort as "something out of a third world country not the world's only superpower".
I'm going to pen a response but not now because facts would get overwhelmed with venom for this pile of kudzo.
We only buy the paper on Sundays for the coupons, I pity the next time they call around for subscriptions.
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:45:32 AM PDT
by
WoodstockCat
(General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
To: All
WWL
Updates as they come in on Katrina
12:08 PM CDT on Sunday, September 4, 2005
Tom Planchet
11:35 A.M. -- Officials said Jefferson Parish residents can return to their homes Monday for a brief time to get some belongings, but must bring identification, sealed food and safe water with them.
10:10 A.M. - MOBILE, Ala. (AP) -- The Bush administration sent Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, its highest ranking black official, Sunday to visit the Hurricane Katrina-ravaged Gulf Coast amid criticism it had responded slowly to the suffering of poor, minority victims. She returned to her native Alabama to attend services at the Pilgrim Rest AME Zion church outside Mobile.
10:06 A.M. - WASHINGTON (AP) -- Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt said the death toll from Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath is in the thousands, the first time a federal official has acknowledged what many had feared. "I think it's evident it's in the thousands," Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt said Sunday on CNN, echoing predictions by city and state officials last week about the death toll.
10:00 A.M. - WASHINGTON (AP) -- Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Sunday the federal government is in control of hurricane-ravaged New Orleans after days in which authorities failed to reach stranded refugees and evacuate the city. He said a house-to-house search will be conducted to find the living and the dead.
CUT CUT
9:10 A.M. -- The Jefferson Parish animal shelter said it has rescued over 100 animals from evacuees at Interstate 10 and Causeway Boulevard. The shelter issues an urgent appeal for national pet and veterinarian organizations to bring trucks to the animal shelter in Tylertown, Miss., and take animals away to places where they can be cared for.
8:45 A.M. - Washington (AP) -- Amid widespread criticism about a slow and ineffectual response to the crisis, the Bush administration dispatched several top officials to the region: Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Richard Myers and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. President Bush planned to return to the region Monday.
8:28 A.M. - (AP) "A Marshall Plan for the Mississippi." That's what New Orleans native Andrew Young thinks is in order to get the hurricane ravage area back on its feet. The former U-N ambassador and Atlanta mayor says getting the region's economy back on track requires thinking similar to what was done for Europe after World War Two.
CUT CUT
8:26 A.M. - (AP) With each passing day, health concerns continue to grow for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Some are obvious, some less so.
CUT CUT .. gastrointestinal illnesses like dysentery are among the immediate concerns. So are staph infections CUT CUT West Nile Virus.
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8:24 A.M. - BRAGGS, Okla. (AP) -- Nearly 40 buses filled with evacuees from the storm-ravaged Gulf Coast have arrived at an Oklahoma National Guard barracks.
CUT CUT
8:10 A.M. - Lieutenant Governor Mitch Landrieu - The images you've seen on TV was the lawless young men who did horrible things and have to be dealt with but what you didn't see, because the cameras weren't allowed in there, was that 99 percent were golden.
8:08 A.M. - Landrieu: This was the largest, most gargantuen [sic] storm in history. Ninety percent of the harm, tragedies and deaths were because of things beyond anyone's control. About 10 percent will be because of what someone didn't do.
8:05 A.M. - Lieutenant Governor Mitch Landrieu - There's a lot of blame to go around, and a lot of credit. Heroes and demons. This is an American tragedy.
CUT CUT
8:00 A.M. - Landrieu: - We need to stop calling them refugees, they are American citizens. I've made that mistake myself.
CUT CUT
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:45:35 AM PDT
by
bwteim
(Begin With The End In Mind)
To: Types_with_Fist
"Clean up at the Superdome has begun"?
She said WHAT? Dear Lord, why are even concerned about an empty, polluted pit from hell?
Faced with the thousands of homes and businesses along the Gulf Coast that need rebuilding and refurbishing, cleaning up the SuperDome should be the last thing on anyone's mind.
Set fire or Bulldoze it, FGS.
sw
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:46:40 AM PDT
by
spectre
(Spectre's wife (50,000 refugees to AR)
To: tbagot
Yes. I know the Dome is fixable. But I think we're a very long way from even thinking about that. The anchorette on TV didn't seem to realize that.
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:47:03 AM PDT
by
Types_with_Fist
(I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
To: spectre
I heard her say it. I swear...:-)
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:48:05 AM PDT
by
Types_with_Fist
(I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
To: bwteim
8:00 A.M. - Landrieu: - We need to stop calling them refugees, they are American citizens. I've made that mistake myself.
And in that same spirit....we need to stop threatening George W. Bush. He is the President of the United States of America.
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:48:27 AM PDT
by
LA Woman3
(On election day, they were driven to the polls...On evacuation day, they had to fend for themselves)
To: Seattle Conservative
I'm so sick and tired of these idiots harping on the Pres being on 'vacation' for a month or 4 or 5 weeks. First, he's never really on vacation, 2nd - if they'd bother to check out his August schedule (link below to WH Press site) they'd see that on Monday he was in AZ discussing Medicare and on Tues he was in CA commemorating the 60th Anniversary of VJ Day. The rest of the month he was working on a variety of items/issues. You aren't the only one who is sick and tired of reporters and demwits referring to President Bush's time spent at the Western White House as his being on vacation. I dare any of those idiots who refer to this as a vacation to accomplish as much as the President does. He gets more done there than any 5 liberal idiots do who spend their time in D.C.
It's almost as if the idiots don't understand the technology available in today's world. Teleconferencing has been around for at least 10 years...I should know since I participated in teleconferencing back when we were finding solutions to the best way to handle a bank merger. One would hope teleconferencing has improved since I was involved and I have to say, it wasn't shabby back then.
Now we have cell phones, even cell phones that can take digital pictures.
The really hilarious part of all this is none of this is all that new as far as technological advances. When I was a youngster I can remember curling up next to my Dad at family gatherings. My Dad had the best lap in the world to snuggle up against to go to sleep. All the other adults in the room would ignore me so I got to hear things I probably shouldn't have heard.
Oh, I forgot to mention one of those adults was my cousin who served a partial term (Secret Service) under Eisenhower and full terms (Secret Service) under Kennedy and Johnson. It was always fascinating to listen to him and to learn some of the methods they used to protect the President. Granted, some of it I didn't understand since it went way over my head but I understood enough which helped to calm my fears during the cold war.
I'd love for those idiots to list why being in Crawford hampers President Bush from doing less than he can in D.C.
I for one am grateful I never had to take the kind of vacation President Bush does. Talk about needing a vacation to recover from a vacation!
/rant
To: Types_with_Fist
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:49:51 AM PDT
by
spectre
(Spectre's wife (50,000 refugees to AR)
To: tbagot
I should think that the recent use as a shelter and aid distribution point of the Astrodome (and to some degree the Superdome, despite the wretched mistakes of the local and state government there) should be sufficient justification.
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:50:33 AM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: TheSpottedOwl
I'd encourage those who want to make a donation that they can be assured will be used wisely and have minimal turnaround time to the ground to go to
North American Mission Board We've been on the ground since Thursday and are averageing 300,000 meals served per day. 100% of the funds go to disaster relief.
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:51:43 AM PDT
by
WoodstockCat
(General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
To: Yellow Rose of Texas
If you start a ping list, please put me one it.
To: Yellow Rose of Texas
Same here - please put me on any ping list you construct.
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:54:38 AM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Alissa
anyone know where there is a transcript of Honore?
He was a great choice for this position by Bush.
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posted on
09/04/2005 11:00:00 AM PDT
by
WoodstockCat
(General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
To: tbagot
Tim Russert made a complete fool of himself today. I called MTP this morning, but the voice mail box was already full! I did get through to the office of the president of the news and their voice mail and left a scathing message about the unprofessionalism of Tim and his complete incompetence.
To: Spktyr; hoosiermama
If you just look for my name, I was asked to post to the Katrina Live threads.
I have not posted in so long, I don't know how to make a ping list, maybe one of you would do it? PLEASE
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