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Katrina Live Thread, Part XIV
Various ^ | 2 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/02/2005 3:03:06 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Steve_Seattle
From the NG and CG scanner reports, the adults are now in charge. The situation on the ground is changing dramatically as we post. The best thing to do is to turn off the occupation media and listen to the scanners and read the local blogs such as The Interdictor. The best the MSM can offer are snapshots and reporter bias.
2,281 posted on 09/02/2005 9:43:20 PM PDT by PA Engineer
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To: PhiKapMom

Yep. And now we will throw more $$ and energy at them so they can keep up the "hoodlum" lifestyle.


2,282 posted on 09/02/2005 9:43:26 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: PA Engineer
http://bellwouthpwp.net/k/d/kd5eis/

Doesn't seem to work for me - can you verify?

2,283 posted on 09/02/2005 9:43:29 PM PDT by Heatseeker ("I sort of like liberals now. They’re kind of cute when they’re shivering and afraid." - Ann Coulter)
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To: Texas_Conservative2

The convention center, as opposed to the Superdome, does still have people in it, or did earlier today.

Apparently due to lack of cell phone communication, no one in that city govt even knew that people had gathered at the convention center.

It was not supposed to be used for this, was not the plan, so in the confusion, no one got the message that there were 1000s of people there.

Word is finally getting out, Shep and now Geraldo are talking about it.

Somebody else said they're not being allowed to just walk out because there's nowhere else to go except one of the other parishes that is already overwhelmed with their own hurricane victims, and can't take anymore.

They'll be rescued by tomorrow, I'd guess.


2,284 posted on 09/02/2005 9:43:57 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: onyx eyes

Ditto that. The reporters are only human. I think their reaction is very telling regarding what is going on in NOLA. I've never seen reporters so uncomposed and panicking in any other situation (the war, the tsumani). This will be known as one of the great tragedies of this century.


2,285 posted on 09/02/2005 9:44:21 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: DrewsMum

Read it again, it's in perfectly clear English. Let me simplify.

1. There are no tanker trucks available to do what you want. They're all busy. Doing so is unnecessary anyway, as you will see further down.

2. Nobody East of the Mississippi River (in general) has oil right now. Their pipeline went down with Katrina. Most of the Southeast also lost their refineries with Katrina, so shipping oil to the refineries wouldn't help anyway.

3. Until Bush made his declaration Wednesday or Thursday (I forget), it was illegal to truck fuel from, say, Dallas to Shreveport and sell it there. Thank the EPA and envirofreaks for that rule. However, that has now been suspended until at least Sep 15 to help gas shortages.

4. The pipeline between Texas and the Gulf States is coming back online and should either be back at 80% of max flow now or will be tomorrow. Fuel and oil will be sent to AL, MS, and LA (as well as other SE states). This will free up the tankers to go do something else. The shortage will be mostly alleviated.

5. The Europeans have figured out that if we don't have fuel, they don't have food (because then we can't clear the Mississippi to send them food). They're going to give us some of their fuel to help out, and that will also relieve the pressure in Europe.

6. Meanwhile, the oil speculators that have been driving up the price of oil have taken it in the shorts and the price of oil is dropping.


2,286 posted on 09/02/2005 9:44:23 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
"i didn't know if i should laugh or cry, but then i remembered this guy is desperate, hungry, and would probably believe anything"

You should not laugh or cry, but be angry that this man could believe such an idiotic idea in this day and age. You should be mad at the race-baiters like JJ and Sharpton, who shamelessly and knowingly lie to these uneducated people in order to preserve their own power and influence.
2,287 posted on 09/02/2005 9:44:53 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Heatseeker
Oops. Sorry.

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2,288 posted on 09/02/2005 9:45:18 PM PDT by PA Engineer
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To: DrewsMum
sorry if this is a stupid question but what is MSM???

Sweet. Victory is ours.

Mum, MSM was this horrible monopolistic leftest/socialist/communist organization that thrived in the latter part of the 20th Century. Now mostly extinct, a few living examples remain, in isolated pockets. A few species are CBS, ABC, CNN & NYT - but even they will mostly be dead and gone within the next few years - if you can find them, you might be entertained watching their death throes. Does that help?

2,289 posted on 09/02/2005 9:45:27 PM PDT by LikeLight
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To: P.O.E.

You can't precision drop loads from an aircraft at high altitudes - the wind blows things all over the place.

You really can't do it over a city, because the pallets tend to cave in roofs, heads, shelters, that sort of thing.


2,290 posted on 09/02/2005 9:45:52 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: All

Oh my, I just listened to that Conye West at the benefit... what a disaster that he even feels the way he does and spouting the Bush hates blacks and then Jessie calling what Bush is doing platitudes.


2,291 posted on 09/02/2005 9:46:04 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

And the dems go on and on about a conspiracy re: Halliburton getting the Iraq contracts because of Cheney..

BUT, if there were other companies that could do the job, as quickly, efficiently, for less money...I am sure they would be considered...

But, Byron Dorgan has been holding "pretend" hearings for months and months trying to get Halliburton for fraud and every other kind of illegal activity he can think of...just to get to Cheney/Bush.


2,292 posted on 09/02/2005 9:46:08 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

hehe, np, i said it in jest....

but i do think it'll fuel the "Rove controls the weather crowd"...


2,293 posted on 09/02/2005 9:46:20 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht
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To: txdoda
I just saw Shep again saying *if* authorities would have let them, people could of walked out.....to Jefferson Parrish.

That fits the scenario of authorities controlling exodus, and denying personal initiative / roaming bands.

2,294 posted on 09/02/2005 9:46:23 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: texasbluebell

I heard President Bush earlier today say the convention center was the highest priority for the day... I just dont understand what the disconnect is here.


2,295 posted on 09/02/2005 9:46:24 PM PDT by Texas_Conservative2
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To: txdoda

No one was stopping people from walking out -- what is he talking about? Many people did walk out.


2,296 posted on 09/02/2005 9:46:30 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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To: DrewsMum

Main Stream MEdia


2,297 posted on 09/02/2005 9:46:46 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: zot

Thanks. I guess at times I get a bit over-anxious. I realize there's a tremendous effort underway. As much as is being done, it's perhaps a natural reaction to just want to do something - anything - whether it works or not.


2,298 posted on 09/02/2005 9:47:13 PM PDT by P.O.E. (.)
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To: Cboldt

yeah I don't get that... why wont they let people walk out!


2,299 posted on 09/02/2005 9:47:27 PM PDT by Texas_Conservative2
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To: LadyBuzz

Thanks for the clarification. She said that on Larry King, who asked why the RC was not in NO.


2,300 posted on 09/02/2005 9:47:28 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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