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Police Chief Says Thousands Trapped in New Orleans Convention Center
AP ^ | 1-Sept-2005 | AP

Posted on 09/01/2005 2:49:12 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo

The New Orleans police chief says 15-thousand people are trapped in the city's convention center. And he says some are being raped and beaten.

Chief Eddie Compass says displaced tourists are "walking in that direction and they are getting preyed upon."

Compass said he sent eight eleven-man teams into the convention center. But as soon as the first team arrived, he said, "they were beaten back within 30 feet of the entrance."

Earlier, the city's mayor issued a "desperate SOS" on behalf of the thousands who are stranded at the convention center.

He also gave the go-ahead for them to march across a bridge to a dry area of the city and look for whatever relief they could find.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: katrina; neworleans
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To: Captain Kirk
"Bush could have been sending in helicopters from a very early stage repairing the levees."

Your ignorance is just stunning.
First, the President does not control National Guard assets.
Second, there are more than enough helicopters supporting the effort in New Orleans.
Third, since you are obviously not an engineer, I won't even ask you to describe the complexity of repairing a levee break in a flood zone, but just realize that you are clueless on that topic.
And finally, have you somehow missed the fact that this is one of the most major natural disasters to hit our nation in its history? Inherent to natural disasters is the fact that they are "disasters". That means that people die, things are destroyed, it takes months and even years to repair the damage...and this one happened just 4 days ago. Your head may be full of science fiction, but your body exists in reality. And the reality of this situation is that it will take time to respond and begin recovery.

281 posted on 09/01/2005 3:31:38 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: MattinNJ
>>>It's time to drop the 82nd and the 101st in.

Actually, the time to do that was on Tuesday. But we should definitely do that now. The situation is New Orleans is beyond belief: martial law should be imposed, and looters should be shot.

282 posted on 09/01/2005 3:31:41 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: DJ MacWoW

"It's one thing to make it mandatory but if there's just no way to leave, what were they to do?

My Wife and I have BUGOUT BAG and two feet!
Please no comments, thats what We decided We would do given the same circumstances.


283 posted on 09/01/2005 3:31:44 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Rosenkreutz
Well, I was talking about the tourists who didn't evacuate, but I get your point...

The problem for tourists is similar but on a smaller scale. NOLA is a tourist city. At any given time, there are lots and lots of tourists, many of whom arrive by airplane and don't have a rent-a-car. The 40 hour evacuation notice is given and you bascally have about half that time to make a move because the airports shut down 12 to 24 hours before the storm actually hits. You might even have less time if you are out and about and not tuned to a TV or radio when the evac order is issued. Now, you have to scramble to find a flight or a rent-a-car while in unfamiliar territory. There are only so many seats available and you are competing with a lot of other people for those seats, and while you might be able to get one, that's not going to help if you're traveling with a spouse, child or other loved one. The last thing you want to do is to go to the airport and take a chance because that particular airport sucks and who wants to be stuck at any airport for several days. So you decide to ride the storm out in a hotel. Not a bad choice and indeed, from what I understand, most of the hotels, particularly in the French Quarter and near the River, survived Katrina with only minor to moderate damage (mostly windows blown out on the upper floors, and minor flooding). Late Monday afternoon, after Katrina has cleared the area, people are back out on the streets. You can even find a few bars and restaurants open in the French Quarter. Electricity is out, but NOLA is a party town so no big deal. Then, at 2:00 a.m. on Tuesday morning, the levies break, and that's the begining of the end.

285 posted on 09/01/2005 3:31:55 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Clemenza
LOL! It's funny because I was just in Miami and Atlanta recently. In Miami, we were walking in the shopping district and got disoriented as to where our car was parked. (Well, I wasn't, my husband was, but he insisted we were headed in the right direction) With each block it got worse and worse. Til i finally grabbed my daughters hand and started to run in the opposite direction.

In Atlanta, while driving back to our room at the Embassy Suites we took the wrong street and crossed a bridge and Whoa! Just across the bridge from the Embassy Suites and we were in a baaaaad neighborhood. Like night and day.
286 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:04 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: RoseofTexas

So the no food or water would make people shoot people who are trying to rescue them? I don't think so. These people don't want the fun to end and they don't WANT the city to come back to order. The children and elderly are paying the price.

Funny how we can take out an evil dictator and overtake an entire country but can't control a mob of thugs. Sad sad day in our country as far as I'm concerned.


287 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:32 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: Enterprise

Martian Law

288 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:37 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: nicmarlo

>Exactly what I was discussing with co-workers today....there's been no water/food drops....but we have the capability to do so outside the U.S. Makes no sense to me at all.<

How would you drop it in a urban environment?It would be like bombing the city.Think before you join the liberal whine.


289 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:39 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: faithincowboys

These people were told to go to that convention center four days ago and buses would come.

Since then no one has come. No buses, no water, no food, no aid, no police presence, no news of when it will come. The media seems to get in there, but they bring nothing but cameras to gawk at the people with.

They can't leave. They are suffering. Some are dying. They have tried to maintain order for themselves, but they are reaching a breaking point.

Shame on you for calling them crybabies.


290 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:43 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: advance_copy

The FEMA director is covering his a@@. He's incompetent, just like everyone else in the government--at all levels.


291 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:48 PM PDT by StarSpangled
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To: All

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8999837/

From the above link:

"But by last year (2004), the number in New Orleans had crept back up to 265. There had been 192 this year by mid-August, compared with 169 at the same time in 2004. Adjusted for the city’s size, those numbers dwarf murder rates in Washington, Detroit, Baltimore, Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City."

"The city now has 3.14 officers per 1,000 residents — less than half the ratio in Washington, D.C."

"NEW ORLEANS - Last year, university researchers conducted an experiment in which police fired 700 blank rounds in a New Orleans neighborhood in a single afternoon. No one called to report the gunfire."

So, has the crime rate gone up since the flood? I'm no longer so sure.


292 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:50 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: joesnuffy
Mogadishu on the Mississippi

I'm just waiting for the rise of the warloads. Maybe the governor will have to negotiate with them for the freedom of the tourists...

293 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:59 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: uncitizen
"You must understand this is out of pure desperation."

All big screens gone?

294 posted on 09/01/2005 3:33:13 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yeah, they were residents who didn't want their places getting looted. I guess that's a very understandable sentiment, given what is happening now. I never heard that about the rescue workers and police who had to stay, that's really heartbreaking.


295 posted on 09/01/2005 3:33:41 PM PDT by Rosenkreutz
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To: wolfcreek
Please no comments

Then why post it?

296 posted on 09/01/2005 3:33:59 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: msnimje
My question is this, has the crime rate risen in NO the past few days or is this how it is on a typical day there and we just do not hear about it on the National News?

Another post in the live thread said crime in NO is 10 times the national average on a good day.

297 posted on 09/01/2005 3:34:03 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: Blessed

Helicopters can drop water and food...they do this in other disasters. Someone can live for a period of time on just water....without it, they die. Very simple.


298 posted on 09/01/2005 3:34:21 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Williams
Tourists are able to walk there to be raped, but eleven member police teams were "beaten back???" thirty feet from the entrance??? did they have guns? And there were 8 of these teams? Now the solution is to let the victims in there walk out and "seek whatever relief they can find."

Does this make sense to anyone else???

No.

299 posted on 09/01/2005 3:34:21 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: ncountylee

I didn't think a sarcasm tag was necessary on that one.


300 posted on 09/01/2005 3:34:40 PM PDT by uncitizen
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