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Levee repair work has yet to begin (Another Levee Break - 700ft wide NOLA will take 3-6 mos to dry)
MSNBTV ^ | August 31, 2005 | Rita Cosby

Posted on 08/31/2005 10:45:57 PM PDT by BJungNan

Rita Cosby just had a head director of the effort to plug the New Orleans levee breaks. A few big bits of news out of the interview.

1. Another 700 foot break has occured in the levee. 2. Once the figure out how to do it, it will take three to four days to plug the breaks. 3. They will have to use helicopters. It is not possible to reach the areas by land or by water. 4. It will take 3 to 6 months to drain the water out New Orleans. 5. It is a very difficult problem with several teams of engineers working on a solution.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: katrina; katrinafailures; neworleans
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To: ARCADIA
NOLAntis. The Lost City.

This is so sad.

21 posted on 08/31/2005 11:21:15 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: clee1

Scientific fact or Freeper intuition?


22 posted on 08/31/2005 11:21:46 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: clee1
The situation, already out of control, is cascading beyond human abilities to fix it..... The "we can do anything" type...."

I think alot of people have difficulty understanding that there are some situations that are impossible to control.

This is a catastrophe and as with other disasters there is no one rule book to go by.

It's amazing what some Americans expect.

23 posted on 08/31/2005 11:22:29 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world)
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To: BJungNan

"In the heart of the night
In the cool southern rain
There's a full moon in sight
Shining down on the Pontchartrain

And the river she rises
Like she used to do
She's so full of surprises
She reminds me of you
In the heart of the night

There's a nightbird singing
Right on through till the dawn
And the streets are still ringing
With people carrying on

It's been so long waiting
Just to be here again
Anticipating
All the time I could spend
In the heart of the night down in New Orleans
In the heart of the night down in New Orleans

And I trust in your love never falling down
And I trust in your love
Just like I do in this town never falling down

And I'm so glad to be back in New Orleans
Please don't wake me, don't shake me,
If this is only just a dream
It's the only place I can face that feels so right
Below that Dixie moon and loving you
In the Heart of the Night"

All right reserved, Poco, 1975


24 posted on 08/31/2005 11:22:56 PM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: MHT

I just saw it on MSNBC - Rita Cosby Show. I wish I had gotten the guys name. But he was a head honcho and made no qualms about saying it would take months to drain New Orleans.

Rita, to her credit, pressed him for an answer. At first he said months. She followed up with, how many months. He said, three to six months. She also got in the interview that they do not have a solution.

The later would seem rather obvious since nothing is happening but a politician would never say it so frankly.

Look for it in tomorrow's headlines. She is a day ahead on this one.


25 posted on 08/31/2005 11:23:05 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan

I heard that the water level in New Orleans has already reached the same level as the lake.


26 posted on 08/31/2005 11:24:02 PM PDT by nascaryankee (PETM (People for the Ethical Treatment of Meat))
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To: BJungNan
Wow!

Foxnews and MSNBC just came back on my cable system.

I've been tortured by having to watch CNN for the past 24 hours.

Since FOX was out, I actually tried to tune into "the fat disgusting one" Rita Cosby. Fortunately that channel was out too.

27 posted on 08/31/2005 11:24:56 PM PDT by benjaminjjones
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To: BJungNan

What has happened down here is the wind have changed
Clouds roll in from the north and it started to rain
Rained real hard and rained for a real long time
Six feet of water in the streets of Evangeline

The river rose all day
The river rose all night
Some people got lost in the flood
Some people got away alright
The river have busted through cleard down to Plaquemines
Six feet of water in the streets of Evangelne

Louisiana, Louisiana
They're tyrin' to wash us away
They're tryin' to wash us away
Louisiana, Louisiana
They're tryin' to wash us away
They're tryin' to wash us away

President Coolidge came down in a railroad train
With a little fat man with a note-pad in his hand
The President say, "Little fat man isn't it a shame what the river has
done
To this poor crackers land."

--- "Louisiana 1927" Randy Newman


28 posted on 08/31/2005 11:25:25 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: nascaryankee

Yes. So we first have to lower the lake.


29 posted on 08/31/2005 11:25:42 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: nascaryankee

Yeah I heard the flood waters have crested which can only mean it reached the level of the lake as it would take a ton of rain to raise the water level of any lake.


30 posted on 08/31/2005 11:26:13 PM PDT by JimDingle (Give Dingle a Jingle)
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To: John Jamieson
You sir, are an idiot.

Not to late to fix this problem.

WAY too late. Strike one.

B52 bomb raid on the LP natural dam to open up flow to the gulf.

Natural dam? What a maroon! LP is open to Lake Borne, which is open to the Gulf. Neither is really a lake: both are actually brackish estuaries.

Strike two.

Most of NO is actually above sea level.

Bzzzzzzz! Wrong again, private. 95% of NOLA is 8-15 feet below sea level. The only reason they didn't flood out long ago was the now-failing levee system. Strike three.

Give up your hopeless dreams. NOLA, as we have known her, is DONE.

31 posted on 08/31/2005 11:26:42 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
Is history repeating itself, or is this prophesy being fulfilled before our eyes? Only time will tell.

It was only a hurricane. Granted, a very destructive hurricane. But, if this were a cataclysmic event of biblical proportions, I doubt many of us would be here posting on FR at the moment.

In other words, as big as this may seem, in the scale of things it is but a blip.

32 posted on 08/31/2005 11:27:12 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: John Jamieson

I would take freeper intuition over scientific fact. But, the evidence is there for all to see, the collapse continues to spread. It is also my understanding that you have to pump the water back into the lake to drain NO, and those levees are in no shape to take on the extra load.


33 posted on 08/31/2005 11:27:57 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: John Jamieson

Scientific fact.

The hydrostatic pressure now being exerted against the levees is immense. They will all fail before the city can be pumped dry. Even if it were possible to magically fix ALL levees RIGHT NOW, the 3 months it would take to pump the city dry would see little left worth salvaging.


34 posted on 08/31/2005 11:29:48 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: clee1

Match IQ, Education and Experience with you anytime, but lets talk about facts first.

#1 Most of NO is actually above sea level.

#2 LP is currently 3 feet above sea level and slowly draining to Gulf.

#3 Bigger hole drains it faster.

#4 city is now connected to lake

#5 Lake goes down 3 feet, so does city.

#6 The difference between 3 feet deep and 0 feet deep is the difference between very wet and dry.


Your shot.


35 posted on 08/31/2005 11:33:21 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: ARCADIA

What extra load? The lake has been going down from the last 4 days.


36 posted on 08/31/2005 11:35:16 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: clee1
We will learn many things from this event, but you are smoking beaucoup "good dope" if you think anything is gonna change. NOLA have been a cesspool for decades; going on a century. It may well turn out to be a good thing that it has finally been "flushed".

Thats basically what I meant. Hopefully, the nation will learn many things from this event. Corrupt politicians can cost lifes and money. But hey, many of us already knew this.

There is a house in New Orleans.
They call the rising son.
Its been the ruin of many a poor boys.
And lord I know I'm one.

37 posted on 08/31/2005 11:35:20 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: clee1

No load now on the lake side.

The river side is under no heavy load as the river is at near normal levels.


38 posted on 08/31/2005 11:37:23 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: John Jamieson
What extra load?

The water in NO would have to be pumped back into the lake.
39 posted on 08/31/2005 11:39:22 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: John Jamieson
No need at all to measure peepees....

1) Look it up. You are just plain wrong. I used to LIVE THERE, and I have worked for the NO Levee Board. OK??

2) Maybe so... not even worth the debate in any case.

3) No debate, except at this point in the game the damage has been done.

4) Yep

5) Eventually, but that still leaves 12-20 feet of water over 80% of the city, which will have to be pumped out AFTER they fix the levees.

6) True, but the difference between 20 feet and 17 feet is insignificant.
40 posted on 08/31/2005 11:39:58 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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