Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Chimp and human DNA is 96% identical
The Financial Times ^ | August 31 2005 | Clive Cookson

Posted on 08/31/2005 6:18:11 PM PDT by neverdem

The first detailed genetic comparison between humans and chimpanzees shows that 96 per cent of the DNA sequence is identical in the two species. But there are significant differences, particularly in genes relating to sexual reproduction, brain development, immunity and the sense of smell.

An international scientific consortium publishes the genome of the chimpanzee, the animal most closely related to homo sapiens on Thursday in the journal Nature. It is the fourth mammal to have its full genome sequenced, after the mouse, rat and human being.

Some of the scientific analysis of the 3bn chemical "letters" of the chimp's genetic code focused on its remarkable closeness to the human genome. After 6m years of separate evolution, the differences between chimp and human are just 10 times greater than those between two unrelated people and 10 times less than those between rats and mice.

But most scientists are concentrating on the differences. The vast majority of these probably have little biological significance, said Simon Fisher of the Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics at Oxford: "The big challenge for the future is to pinpoint the tiny subset of differences that account for the origins of unusual human traits, such as complex language."

>
External website: Read Nature's interactive report on the chimp genome
>Click here
>

The preliminary evidence suggests that the outstanding size and complexity of the human brain owes less to the evolution of new human genes than to the different way existing genes produce proteins as the human brain grows in the foetus and during infancy. Genes for transcription factors - molecules that regulate the activity of other genes and play a vital role in embryonic development - are evolving more quickly in humans than in chimps.

Three key genes involved in the human inflammatory response to disease are missing in chimps, which may explain some of the differences between the two immune systems. On the other hand humans have lost a gene for an enzyme that may protect other animals against Alzheimer's disease.

The clearest differences to emerge from the analysis are in the Y (male) sex chromosome. While the human Y chromosome has maintained its count of 27 active gene families over 6m years, some have mutated and become inactive on its chimp counterpart.

This finding contradicts the popular view that the human Y chromosome is withering away because it has no genetic "mate" with which to swap genes - a process that repairs damaged DNA on other chromosomes. Presumably an alternative repair mechanism has evolved in humans but not in chimps.

David Page of the Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research suggested that mating habits in the two species might explain the difference. Because male and female chimps mate with multiple partners there is stronger selective pressure on sperm-producing genes and conversely less pressure on evolution to preserve other genes on the Y chromosome in the apes than in largely monogamous humans.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chimps; crevolist; genes; genetics; science
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100101-119 next last
To: LiteKeeper
[both sidestep the most significant features of that evidence]

And what would "the most significant features" be?

The actual *nature* of the similarities and differences in the DNA, *and* the way in which the implied phylogenies superbly match the other independent lines of evidence for common descent.

Instead, the creationists ignore all that, and just hand-wave about how "similarities don't prove nothin'" (while sidestepping the fact that the DNA comparisons yield far more phylogenetic signal than mere amorphous "similarities), and mumblings about morphological features, which disingenuously tries to deny the realities of gene function, as well as the synonymous differences between genomes.

81 posted on 08/31/2005 8:20:46 PM PDT by Ichneumon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: reagan_fanatic; Ichneumon
Ichneumon - I'll offer my heartfelt apologies to you when you can refer to it as the Fact of Evolution as opposed to the Theory of Evolution.

Um, you do realize that the next step in the scientific process is Law, not Fact, right? Facts are the individual pieces of data and evidence that scientific theories are based upon, not what a theory becomes.

Oh, and by the way, evolution itself is a fact, in that it is demonstrable that certain character traits can manifest over generations and be passed along to descendants. That makes evolution (little 'e') a fact, and is but one piece of evidence supporting the Theory of Evolution (big 'e').

82 posted on 08/31/2005 8:28:57 PM PDT by Antonello
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: Coyoteman
>> But why medium rare? Good meat should never be overcooked!

The wife goes by the flash fry method, anything under well done is raw to her and she gags.

I have to supervise things to get MR.

I like the Pittsburgh myself, though I have to eat outside with the dogs if I do it... And she bitches all night about the smell.
83 posted on 08/31/2005 8:29:26 PM PDT by mmercier (better to burn out than fade away)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: reagan_fanatic
Ichneumon - I'll offer my heartfelt apologies to you when you can refer to it as the Fact of Evolution as opposed to the Theory of Evolution.

Okay: Evolution is a Fact and a Theory, Five Major Misconceptions about Evolution, [Debunking] Creationist Claim CA201: Evolution is only a theory. It is not a fact, Introduction to Evolutionary Biology, and 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution" Scientific Proof?.

I appreciate your heartfelt apology, that's mighty big of you.

Have a great evening!

Thanks, you too.

84 posted on 08/31/2005 8:30:44 PM PDT by Ichneumon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Hey, thats down, they used to peg it at 98% But that was probably just in the New England university scene.


85 posted on 08/31/2005 8:35:05 PM PDT by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century Democratic Party when he wrote 1984)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #86 Removed by Moderator

To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


87 posted on 08/31/2005 9:10:33 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: saul goode
Why, if it weren't, evolutionists wouldn't be able to take you to a jungle ...errrrrrrr... ***RAINFOREST*** and show everyone evidence of apes actively evolving into humans. In fact, everywhere I look, I see evidence of it. It's not just with apes, either. Why there're frogs with moustaches just evolving away.

Here's an idea- before you come onto these threads and start making inane claims about the theory of evolution, perhaps you should actually go and learn what the TOE says.

That way, you won't end up looking like an idiot.

88 posted on 08/31/2005 9:24:10 PM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: A message
As a courtesy, I would like to reply to you that I have completed my reply and I realize my intentions are more suited for an Evo vs ID thread. My reply is inappropriate for this particular thread because it would be off the subject. I will post the reply at a future time on an Evo vs ID thread.

Okay, fair enough.

And my apologies at the moment for wasting your time.

No apology needed -- the only person with the power to waste my time is myself. ;-)

89 posted on 08/31/2005 9:30:48 PM PDT by Ichneumon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: saul goode
Yours was post #58.. I was looking for it..
( Surprised it wasn't sooner..)
90 posted on 08/31/2005 9:43:35 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

bonobo bump


91 posted on 08/31/2005 9:47:29 PM PDT by benjaminjjones
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
The first detailed genetic comparison between humans and chimpanzees shows that 96 per cent of the DNA sequence is identical in the two species.

I remember reading the identical statement ten years ago.
Why is this news again?

I'm almost afraid to ask. What's the purpose of "re-publishing it" so to speak?

92 posted on 08/31/2005 9:49:36 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ICE-FLYER

HHAHAHAHAHAHaH thats soooooo funny ..Just spit out my iced tea here...AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


93 posted on 08/31/2005 9:52:31 PM PDT by hoboken109
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: TXBubba
It's that 4% you gotta watch out for.

What % difference would you guess there is between Einstein and a moron like Michael Moore?

94 posted on 08/31/2005 9:54:23 PM PDT by aquila48
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: saul goode
The sheets on my bed have the exact same thread count as my pillow cases. They are the same color. They smell the same. They feel the same. They have the exact same pattern. They are made from the same material. They are identical in nearly every measurable way. Using your logic, I am convinced that my pillow cases evolved from my sheets.

Your bedsheets and pillowcases are able to reproduce?
95 posted on 08/31/2005 10:11:05 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: reagan_fanatic
Last time I checked, the theory of evolution was just that - a theory.

A "theory" is the highest level that an explanation can reach in science. There is nothing above "theory". Saying that evolution is "just" a theory doesn't prove anything.
96 posted on 08/31/2005 10:11:52 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Antonello
Um, you do realize that the next step in the scientific process is Law, not Fact, right?

Theories and Laws are two different kinds of statements. Theories do not become laws.
97 posted on 08/31/2005 10:13:23 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Bump for later... time to hit the rack tonight.


98 posted on 08/31/2005 10:37:33 PM PDT by El Gato
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ICE-FLYER
Wow...look how close Teddy's DNA must be!

But that's an Orangatan, not a chimp. I think the Irish are descended from a common ancestor of those, at least the Kennedy clan.

99 posted on 08/31/2005 10:40:39 PM PDT by El Gato
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: RightWhale
Hasn't there been a time when you could have used an extra hand?

Yes there has. But, the benefits weren't worth the design headaches.

100 posted on 08/31/2005 11:28:37 PM PDT by YHAOS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100101-119 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson