Katrina Live Thread, Part XI

Various ^ | 30 August 2005 | Various

[oceanview]

its a bit more then just "petty legalism" - the proper use of the US military, in a "shoot to kill" role in a US city against citizens, is an important part of our democracy.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Whatever.

Did ANYONE know until yesterday afternoon how bad it has been?

Um, yeah, its only been predicted for nearly 4 decades. Its only been planned for by FEMA, using this exact scenario(or actually a slightly worse version.) Only predicted by many freepers before the hurricane hit, and as every image came out throughout Monday.

[Cboldt]

I think if people are being raped, it's time to shoot -- if not shoot to kill ...

Shoot to stop.

[advance_copy]

It's 5pm, President Bush is usually very right on time with his speeches. Still, this is an awfully big issue.

[OB1kNOb]

I've seen your posts. Go yank someone else's chain. Thanks.

[RobbyS]

There is legislation in place that would, in certain circumstances, put the whole country under military rule. We are not ther yet.

[mware]

He is still in a meeting with all the depts on the Hurricane relief.

[Diddle E. Squat]

it is not the role of military personnel to suggest what their chain of command should or should not do.

I never said or suggested that it was. The theme of my recent posts is that FEMA and administration heads need to use their position and power to get more military/nat'l guard into the city.

[radiohead]

God bless Shep Smith, pleading with the state police rep to get ANY info to the mass of people on the freeway.

My friend and I were just talking about the lack of info for the remaining public. Couldn't the Army, police, or NG have gotten out there w/a bullhorn and a humvee, jeep or boat and get some word to people?

Where is the planning???

I just watched a clip from WWL as people were coming out of St. Bernard's Parrish. I'm in tears. People standing on levees waiting hours for help, the police chief begging for food and water. I repeat, where is the planning???

[oceanview]

the administation has done well today from what I have seen and heard. I wish this speech by Bush was in primetime however.

[Txsleuth]

At least I don't spend my time worrying about whether the reporter is pretty or not....

you are wasting too much thread space by complaining about dumb stuff.

[radiohead]

I would like to see an executive order curbing unnecessary travel. That would, of course, include Cindy Sheehan's bus tour.

We can only hope! : )

[sinkspur]

Sorry, I am a big fan of the President, but he's allowed the situation to unfold where it will appear to many that he is too slow and reactionary, rather than proactive. May not be true, but perception is stronger than reality in situations like this.

GW Bush got FEMA staged and into town quicker than his dad got FEMA into south Florida after Andrew. Bush's job is to SUPPLEMENT the local authorities. Jeb Bush was clearly in charge after the four hurricanes last year, with FEMA playing a subsidiary role.

Bush does not have the authority to roll into New Orleans and take over. I really don't know what you expect him to do.

[Types_with_Fist]

where is the planning???

To Hell with that. Too late. Where the Hell's the response?

[Warren_Piece]

CNN: They're showing a gas panic in Atlanta.

[Diddle E. Squat]

3 terms:

'Big picture'

'Results'

'Bottom line'

[Cboldt]

a friend in Northern Louisiana who was en route to NOLA with his boat in order to help. Law enforcement stopped him on the highway and made him turn back. Those with boats are now being shot, and the boats are being "boatjacked".

Sigh. Sad commentary about humanity. It's not safe to venture and proffer help and assistance.

[mware]

I saw that. He said the law enforcement officer he was talking to regarding the looters was."I would rather shot 'em and put a sticker on em and leave it at that.