| This thread has been locked, it will not receive new replies. |
|
Locked on 08/31/2005 4:19:47 PM PDT by Admin Moderator, reason:
New thread here http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474387/posts |
Posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse
The situation in New Orleans continues to deteriorate due to rising water levels and desperation. Search and rescue continues via boat and air. Authorities have announced the goal to evacuate all the remaining residents of NOLA. The New Orleans Mayor has reported numerous gas leaks throughout the city. Sporadic fires occurring. Attempts to evacuate hundreds of hospital patients from Charity Hospital and Tulane Medical Center are in process. Patients are being transported to other hospitals as far away as Florida.
The Army Corps of Engineers is at the NOLA levee breaks with current plans to drop 3000 lb sand bags in an effort to stop the flow of water. NOLA hospital evacuations continue for thousands of patients. Reports indicate all evacuees are being taken to the SuperDome, which is now surrounded by water. The generators at the Dome are now in jeopardy. The Governor of Louisiana has called for a day of prayer tomorrow...
Elsewhere, search and rescue continue in Mississippi and Alabama. Biloxi reports indicate catastrophic damage.
Links to various news and local government websites:
WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends (very slow load)
2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.
Inside Houma Today needing boats, volunteers, lists gas station openings, water, etc.
WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.
Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports
Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger
Streaming Video:
WWL-TV (via KHOU/Houston): http://www.wwltv.com/cgi-bin/bi/video/makeadplaylist.pl?title=beloint_khou&live=yes
WKRG/Mobile: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518
WDSU/New Orleans via WAPL/Jackson: mms://a842.l1291238841.c12912.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/842/12912/v0001/reflector:38841
All are Windows Media Player links.
Related FR Threads:
FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread
Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?
Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here
Martial Law Declared in New Orleans
Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.
www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.
Previous Threads:
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12
Is your argument, then, that people did not have time to get out of town?
I'm really trying to understand what you are trying to indict the mayor (or whoever else you've decided is at fault for this disaster - apparently everyone in NOLA, according to one of your posts) - for. You're just on a finger-pointing rampage, but that's an old pasttime for Monday morning quarterbacks everywhere.
Which was pushed back to 4:45 for the reason DES pointed out (the parishes closer to the Gulf get evacuated first).
Yes - what is your assertion? I'll ask you then the same question I just asked Howlin' - do you think there was not enough warning given?
***I honestly don't know what more you can do, as a city official, than tell people to leave.***
In a city that faces almost CERTAIN Destruction from a moderate direct hit??
Well... A plan to use ALL assets to evacuate EVERYBODY out in 24 hours would have been a start. THEN if they choose not to go, so be it. Get names of next-of-kin...
Having a plan to return emergency assets within hours of the end of a storm....
Sticking 30,000 people in a potential Deathtrap, without food, water and facilities, including medical, is NOT a plan...
And who could blame them... people no longer wanted to drive down Imperial Highway (In Los Angeles) to get to LAX so businesses along the way suffered, the list goes on... then the second riots... things get even worse.
THEN last year developers wanted to go into the area and put in a super shopping center, with a super Walmart (cheaper groceries and jobs) resturants, etc... and Maxine Waters, Jessie Jackson, etc., all show up and say you don't want this, they are taking advantage of you... vote against this development.
Guess what? they VOTED it down!
So now you know why I no longer live in California, can't deal with the mentality. Now we have a Democratic (clueless) governor who I hope we defeat next year before she runs Arizona into the ground.
Ya like yesterday. I have ranted about that post after post, until the drum has no sound, and I am fairly talented about pounding out rants from my keyboard. I am paid the big bucks to do it, and was doing it here for free.
I hope you work for FEMA, because you obviously have the plan all worked out. If not, what a great mind and resource is going to waste. Maybe we can put you in place before the next quake in Cali, or volcanic eruption.
In all seriousness, what can you do? You need all emergency staff in the city, on the ground, during the crisis, not trying (vainly, is very possible) to shuttle people to higher ground who don't even want to leave. Some of them would probably hide in there houses anyway. What's happening now is a pretty hardcore effort to save people who made a big mistake. And i'm not blaming them for it - that's just what a disaster is sometimes, people in harms way, whether they put themselves there, or ended up there by chance.
JMHO.
An enormous loss of life in the Pass Christian/Bay St. Louis area is being reported on another thread. I hope this is not true but it is where the greatest surge was and matches the little information that I have gotten on the area. Lets pray this is not true. I know for a fact that surge was much higher than Camille in that area.
And I didn't start this, you did when you posted
The mayor and ALL of the officials of New Orleans and Louisiana as a whole warned everyone beginning Friday that this storm was not going to turn, that it was a worst-case scenario, and that everyone had to get out.
If you can comprehend English, you can clearly see that that statment is demonstrably false. They did no such thing.
And what I see now is that you're trying to change the subject by injecting personal attacks.
Time to be a man and just admit you were factually wrong.
buckleyfan-She did state the facts,sick of your posts,night.
Ooops......somebody doesn't like the answer so they're changing the question!
CAN YOU HELP? I just copied this from another thread....the FReeper to write is "LookingUp."
Does anyone here know the safe/dry route out of N.O. My friend is near hwy.90 and belle chase... i was hoping that hwy.90 west to Houma is workable... He had a stroke last year and his girlfriend died last week... he has 4 dogs and would not leave them ... now he is willing to leave but i feel that we need to help him get to a place where we can meet him.// he has only 1/2 tank of gas... there are no atm machines or gas stations in the area.. he has nowhere to get water or his insulin... no cooling for his meds...please help with the route... thanks.
As for the dead thousands.. there is nothing i can say... but i prayed that night and was physically and mentally ill.. I suffered through Betsy.... the suffering and pain that the survivors are going to experience is beyond anything any of us can comprehend...
324 posted on 08/30/2005 11:14:49 PM PDT by LookingUp
And what I see now is that you're trying to change the subject by injecting personal attacks.
Well and fine. Then let's just stop posting to each other, sound good? I'll start.
Thanks flutters.
It was just a bad deal all the way around. Sufficient warning couldn't have been given since it was generally accepted that a full evacuation of New Orleans would take 72 hours, and Katrina gave even the experts less time than that, especially on its severity (the 10 am Saturday advisory was the first one that specifically mentioned the possibility of a Category 4). Couple that with a faster-than-expected approach, and you got what we got.
Where I could fault the mayor was in dickering with the definition of "mandatory" (it seems to give more power to the government in Louisiana than elsewhere), and then not using buses to start taking residents out of the city rather than to the Superdome. Beyond that, I can only fault the people that could get out but didn't.
That's the last time I try to break up a fight :-)
call the troopers...all the roads are listed as closed.
LOL.........Well, it's a damn good thing we're stopping, isn't it, since you've in that corner.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.