Katrina Live Thread, Part XI

Various ^ | 30 August 2005 | Various

[kenth]

Tell your dad he's a smart man.

[Types_with_Fist]

Actually this mayor is better than most, he came in and has done some good things I hear.

I don't mean to denigrate the mayor too much. I only know him from his performance in this saga. He was screwed beforehand. No good choices. Years of bad decisions and planning.

[Doohickey]

Don't pay any attention to them. Some people just like to bitch. People bitched after Hugo; they bitched after Andrew; they bitched after Isabel and by golly they won't be denied the right to bitch after Katrina.

[sarasota]

Thanks for the cinnamon toast advice/comic relief, al.

[spanalot]

"Smarmy... yet ineffective. You're an engineer, aren't you?"

I'm not sure what your point is but given the hundreds of miles of levees that are imperiled by a couple 200' breeches, it is imperative they be repaired since they are not designed to be wet on both sides.

There is an incredible amount of infrastructure that is going to be obliterated for lack of a plan to plug a very finite distance.

[Ramius]

thelake never surged over the top - these dykes simply failed below their design level

that's "dikes". What you're talking about is different.

...and they DID top out. There's also groundwater surging up into the low spots. Is this the first thread on this that you've read today?

[Enchante]

Gov. and Mayor were both asleep at the switch, did not declare mandatory evac. until Sunday am, and now they want to blame everyone but themselves.

[Battle Hymn of the Republic]

your right, it is certainly going to get much worse... the next couple days are critical.

[al baby]

Yo Bill you out there ?

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Oh, I have to go listen to something to get that so called music out of my head!

[processing please hold]

The bigots who voted against Jindal are getting exactly what they asked for.

Exactly. Me and my entire family voted Jindal, but apparently the bigots out numbered us. But we voted him in as Represenative.

[PhiKapMom]

Sure hope the Corps has been on duty checking the levees because I would sure hate to think it was anyone from the city Government checking. At least FEMA has taken charge according to the Sheriff.

[hole_n_one]

You did a fine job in scraping all of the sugar off.

[Corin Stormhands]

If he did go right now, some people would be crying "photo op"!

Exactly!

[oceanview]

that's an exaggeration. crews have already gotten to the offshore rigs today, where did they come from if "everyone is gone".

[Doe Eyes]

He can be impeached over WHAT?

Pretty much anything, if you have the votes.

[section9]

I am quite sure that they are ramping up for another rotation. Problem is, I don't believe the President has an alternative but to use these two divisions. Or at least the 101. He might be able to leave 4th Mech out of it and simply make it a 101/2nd Marine Division operation. I don't see how he avoids using the 101, the 2nd, and possibly the 82nd in this situation. You simply have to flood the zone with Federal Troops.

This is as much a political necessity as anything else. Registered voters will demand it. "America first!" and all that. You will, in short order, hear demands from Red State southern senators and congressmen for Federal Troops and assistance to help maintain order. These are Red States we're talking about here. Bush isn't stupid, and he didn't get to be President by being politically tone deaf.

He may get around part of the problem by asking other state governors to call up their Guard units for duty in NO for short-duration TOD's.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[cajungirl]

The llama was not allowed in the house.

My sister is in BR,,Baton Rouge

I think you are teasing me! Everyone knows about the llama by now,,BTW his name is Louie La Llama after that writer whose name I cannot spell.

[PhiKapMom]

What part of putting FEMA on the ground two days before the hurricane do you not understand?

[Diddle E. Squat]

Mayor: They shouldn't go to the Superdome. It's quite unpleasant there right now. Better to go to a second floor. Me: He may have just killed some more people with that goofy advice.

Actually that is indeed the best advice. Those persons in apartments above the 1st or maybe 2nd floor are in a better situation, with their food, hopefully some liquids saved up, clean containers to catch the rainwater, better sanitary conditions, a place to lay down, and less chance for cross contamination from a mass of other people. The water shouldn't rise any higher than the water in the lake (equilibrium), which has been stated will be about 3' above sea level. 30% of the city is above sea level, and the rest ranges from 0' to -12'. So the water shouldn't get up to more than a couple of feet of the 2nd floor of buildings, and not that high for most of the city. Usually a floor is 10'. So that advice may indeed save lives. The worst case flooding of 25' under water was based on storm surge, which is no longer a factor.