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Tempest brews over quotes on Starbucks cups
The Seattle Times ^ | August 29, 2005 | Lornet Turnbull

Posted on 08/29/2005 4:30:31 PM PDT by neverdem

Starbucks says it was hoping to inspire old-fashioned coffee-house conversations when it introduced a campaign this year featuring the words of notable Americans on its coffee cups.

But at least a few of those words are sparking more discord than discussion.

A national Christian women's organization is accusing the Seattle-based coffee maker of promoting a homosexual agenda because of a quote by author Armistead Maupin, whose "Tales of the City" chronicled San Francisco's homosexual community in the 1970s and 1980s.

Maupin's quote — one of several dozen in "The Way I See It" promotion — says his only regret about being gay is that he repressed it for so long.

"I surrendered my youth to the people I feared when I could have been out there loving someone. Don't make that mistake yourself. Life's too damn short."

Concerned Women for America, which promotes itself as the antithesis of the National Organization for Women and boasts 8,700 supporters in Washington, says most of those quoted on the coffee cups are liberal.

The group believes corporations have a responsibility to reflect the diversity of their customers by taking a balanced approach — or staying out of divisive social issues altogether.

And while the group is not calling for a boycott, its position nonetheless raises questions about what role — if any — corporations should take on potentially sensitive matters, especially at a time when the nation is divided, largely along religious lines, on issues such as gay rights.

"Corporations have deeper pockets and therefore more influence than individuals do," said Maureen Richardson, state director of Concerned Women for America of Washington.

"I think it's wiser for them to stay out of these issues so that they don't offend conservatives and people of faith."

To these companies, she says: "If you want my money, support some of my causes."

But experts say that on controversial issues, no company can please all its customers all the time. Corporations, they say, need to pick their battles, staking out a position on issues they believe to be just.

"There are many religious-based social issues that are so hard for society to address right now — things like abortion and capital punishment — they're better left for another time," said Leo Hindery, author of "It Takes a CEO: Leading with Integrity."

"But there are a couple of places where it is clear to me that there should be no ambiguity of corporate responsibility — the environment and civil rights," Hindery said. "As a corporation, you cannot let the desire for unanimity override your obligation for fairness."

"The Way I See It" campaign does not set out to take a political stand but rather to encourage discourse, Starbucks spokeswoman Audrey Lincoff said.

"If you think back to the history of the old coffee houses, before the Internet, these were places to converse," she said. "That's part of what the coffee culture has been for a century or more."

Lincoff said the company does not characterize the personalities quoted on its coffee cups as liberal or conservative, but rather as a diverse group of artists, musicians, educators, activists and athletes.

Among them: actor Quincy Jones, New Age author and alternative-medicine doctor Deepak Chopra, radio host and film critic Michael Medved, rap artist Chuck D and Olympic medalist Michelle Kwan.

The coffee company won't be pulling the Maupin quote — or any other — from the campaign, but in fact will expand it to feature quotes from regular customers.

"Embracing diversity and treating people with dignity is one of the guiding principles of our corporation," Lincoff said.

Richardson, of the women's organization, cites possible support by Starbucks for pro-life clinics and the Boy Scouts of America as ways the company might offset its support of Planned Parenthood Federation of America and gay pride.

But Starbucks spokeswoman Lara Wyss said decisions about sponsoring gay-pride events and other causes are made at the store or regional level, not the corporate level. And while Starbucks matches employee contributions to charities such as Planned Parenthood, Wyss said, it doesn't make outright corporate contributions to such groups.

Other corporations have also drawn controversy over sensitive topics.

Last spring, Ken Hutcherson, pastor of Antioch Bible Church in Redmond, threatened to boycott Microsoft if it didn't back off its support of anti-discrimination legislation for gays here in Washington.

Microsoft withdrew, but said it had decided before Hutcherson issued his threat.

In Oregon last month, Nike withstood opposition and an e-mail campaign organized by a Christian organization over Nike's support of legislation that would have allowed civil unions and banned discrimination against gays.

Both measures passed the Senate but did not make it to the House for a vote.

And for more than two decades now, members of the Freedom from Religion Foundation, which advocates for the separation of state and church, said they have complained to Alaska Airlines about prayer cards the company distributes with in-flight meals.

The airline said it has been offering the cards for 30 years and has received positive responses along with complaints. Passengers are free to give the cards back or turn them over if they don't want them, the carrier said.

John Hoover, a national business consultant and author who has advised such companies as IBM, Delta Air Lines and Boeing on the art of confrontation, said, "It's not incumbent on corporations to operate with balance" as Richardson suggests.

"But when they stand by their conscience, they must be willing to accept the consequences."

Lornet Turnbull: 206-464-2420 or lturnbull@seattletimes.com


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: christians; coffee; culturewars; cwa; flipflopnation; homosexualagenda; moreexpensivethangas; overpricedcrap; quotes; starbucks
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THOMAS JAMES HURST / THE SEATTLE TIMES
Critics of some of the quotes on Starbucks' cups want balance.

The way they see it

A sampling of contributions to Starbucks' "The Way I See It" promotion

Michael Medved, radio talk-show host "Americans spend an average of 29 hours a week watching television ... which means in a typical life span we devote 13 uninterrupted years to our TV sets! ... Cutting down just an hour a day would provide extra years of life — for music and family, exercise and reading, conversation and coffee."

Rita Golden Gelman, author, "Tales of a Female Nomad" ... "Without risk, nothing new ever happens. Without trust, fear creeps in. Without serendipity, there are no surprises."

Alice Randall, novelist and first black woman to write a No. 1 country song "Mother-love is not inevitable. The good mother is a great artist, ever creating beauty out of chaos."

Erykah Badu, musician "The wise healer endures the pain. Cry. Tears bring joy."

Nikki Giovanni, poet "Hot allusions. Metaphors over easy. Side order of rhythm. Message: If you want to be a poet you've got to eat right."

Jonah Goldberg, editor, National Review Online "Everywhere, unthinking mobs of 'independent thinkers' wield tired cliches like cudgels, pummeling those who dare question 'enlightened' dogma. ... Cliches begin arguments, they don't settle them."

J.A. Jance, crime novelist "When I began writing, the words that inspired me were these: 'A writer is someone who has written today.' If you want to be a writer, what's stopping you?"

Source: Starbucks

1 posted on 08/29/2005 4:30:32 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Not surprised... just disgusted.


2 posted on 08/29/2005 4:32:17 PM PDT by Barney59 (I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it.)
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To: neverdem

"The group believes corporations have a responsibility to reflect the diversity of their customers"

Starbucks' customers aren't diverse. I really don't care what a private company puts on its coffee cups. If I don't like it, I can go elsewhere.


3 posted on 08/29/2005 4:32:50 PM PDT by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: neverdem
"I think it's wiser for them to stay out of these issues so that they don't offend conservatives and people of faith."

To these companies, she says: "If you want my money, support some of my causes."

Two biggest contradictory statements ever uttered. She wants them to "stay out of these issues"...yet encourages it if it "supports her causes".

Nope..no bias there whatsoever. Notta...

4 posted on 08/29/2005 4:34:00 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: neverdem

I'll take Taco Bell's suace wisdoms anyday...

"Does eating a Big Burrito qualify me for the carpoool lane?"

"When I grow up, I want to be a waterbed."

"Tails"

"Heads"

Far more clever, non-offensive.


5 posted on 08/29/2005 4:34:19 PM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: neverdem

At least they're quoting one of my favorite authors,J A Jance.

I would have to be really desperate to pay the outrageous prices for coffee at Starbucks. Total ripoff.

If you don't like what they say on their coffee cups,don't go there.

Seems simple to me.


6 posted on 08/29/2005 4:34:56 PM PDT by Mears (Mrs Massachusetts)
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To: neverdem
First of all, what a dumb quote! That's not exactly the kind of thing that someone is going to laminate and put in their wallet.

Secondly, why do we have to politicize everything? And this question is (rhetorically) directed to both Starbucks and to Concerned Women for America.

7 posted on 08/29/2005 4:35:02 PM PDT by My2Cents ("It takes a nation of candyasses to hold this military back.")
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To: neverdem
I'll never buy their coffee again. It's not that special anyway.

But Cafe Britt! It's much better.

8 posted on 08/29/2005 4:38:34 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (The repenting soul is the victorious soul)
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To: My2Cents

"Secondly, why do we have to politicize everything?"

Well, Starbucks specifically wants to politicize their coffee shops, apparently because they think more people will come. Fine by me; I rarely go there.


9 posted on 08/29/2005 4:38:52 PM PDT by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: neverdem
A new Starbucks just opened up in my town but I don't care for Starbucks coffee, I'd rather go to Atlanta Bread across the street.
10 posted on 08/29/2005 4:39:06 PM PDT by RightWinger
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To: neverdem
I'd be more impressed if they had free *stock* quotes on the cup ... preferrably ones that weren't as old as the coffee...

TS
(coffee and stock quotes get stale quickly.)

11 posted on 08/29/2005 4:39:22 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (By definition, we cannot have Consensus until you agree with me.)
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To: RightWinger

I prefer Mr. Coffee myself.


12 posted on 08/29/2005 4:39:48 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: neverdem

It's been common knowledge for a while now that Starbucks is a leftie corporation, which is why they attract so many fools willing to waste so much money on an ordinary cup of coffee.


13 posted on 08/29/2005 4:40:46 PM PDT by jpl
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To: neverdem
I don't normally buy 'Bucks coffee, but my large this morning had a quote from Michael Medved (quote #51)-
Americans spend an average of 29 hours a week watching television--which means in a typical life span we devote 13 uninterrupted years to our TV sets! The biggest problem with mass media isn't low quality--it's high quantity. Cutting down just an hour a day would provide extra years of life--for music and family, exercise and reading, conversation and coffee.
This particular quote I tend to agree with.
14 posted on 08/29/2005 4:41:30 PM PDT by Betis70 (Every generation needs a new revolution)
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To: BackInBlack

When I heard of this I looked at the cup I bought last night. The quote was reasonable...then I noticed it was one by Michael Medved.

This should be a crybaby thread.


15 posted on 08/29/2005 4:41:45 PM PDT by Loud Mime (War is Mankind's way of ridding the world of the tyranny caused by liberalism)
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To: neverdem
The Way I See It #962:

How would you know if someone peed in your coffee, anyway?

-Bob Finkelman
Underpaid Starbucks Employee

16 posted on 08/29/2005 4:41:50 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: neverdem
If your business isn't politics, keep your politics out of your business.
17 posted on 08/29/2005 4:42:13 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Every evil which liberals imagine Judaism and Christianity to be, islam is.)
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To: neverdem

Stay away from Starbucks, surely one doesn't need that cup of joe that often. I'm sure they are overpriced anyway. I'm a tea drinker...try Green Tea, good for ya ;) Starbucks is leaning way too political these days, far to the left.


18 posted on 08/29/2005 4:43:16 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee (http://hometown.aol.com/feereports/feepolitics.html)
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To: jpl


Watch it now...I like the capuccino, and if you dont take the opportunity to "witness" to the uninformed...your missing out.


19 posted on 08/29/2005 4:43:32 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: All
Get a load of this: Starbuck's ceo Howard Shultz's campaign contributions listed in detail.

Long story short: he's donated $117,600 to PACs and candidates...only $1000 to a Republican, and that was to McCain!

20 posted on 08/29/2005 4:43:40 PM PDT by dollar_dog
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