Posted on 08/29/2005 1:49:54 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee
President Bush Vows to Help With Border Problems NewsMax.com Wires Monday, Aug. 29, 2005
EL MIRAGE, Ariz. -- President Bush said Monday he will work with Gov. Janet Napolitano and other border governors to secure the U.S.-Mexico border, where political leaders have been calling for help to deal with waves of illegal immigrants.
Bush told a crowd in this retirement community that he understands the federal government's obligation to enforce the border.
"It's important for the people of this state to understand, your voices are being heard in Washington, D.C.," he said.
Making reference to Sen. Jon Kyl, an Arizona Republican who introduced Bush here, the president said, "This senator and this Congress are going to work closely with the administration to make sure we have the resources necessary to do our responsibility, which is to enforce this border. And we'll do so."
Bush made the trip west from his Texas ranch to lend a hand to the administration's effort to sell older Americans on the value of a prescription drug benefit that begins next year for Medicare patients.
Trying to combat confusion about and criticism of the new government drug plan, Bush was making appearances in both Arizona and California Monday to talk it up.
After spending the night in San Diego, he speaks on Tuesday at the Naval Air Station North Island there to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the end of World War II. His remarks focus on fighting terrorists and the ongoing campaign in Iraq. They recall the Aug. 14, 1945, Japanese surrender that came just days after the United States incinerated the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with atomic bombs.
There has been indications that efforts to build support for the Medicare drug benefit - including a few other appearances around the country by Bush - are paying off. Congress allocated about $300 million to an awareness campaign.
A recent survey from the Kaiser Family Foundation found for the first time that people were as likely to have a favorable view of the plan as to have an unfavorable view. Still, the survey found that more people do not plan to enroll than do.
The prescription drug benefit kicks in Jan. 1. About 43 million beneficiaries will be able to choose from two or more private plans that offer drug coverage.
Enrollees will pay a monthly premium averaging about $32, but the amount will vary among regions, and millions of poor people will pay nothing. Beneficiaries will also have a $250 deductible, meaning they will have to pay that amount for their prescriptions before the drug plan covers expenses. Again, millions of poor beneficiaries will not have any deductible.
After spending more than four weeks operating from his Texas ranch, Bush returns to Washington on Friday. © 2005 The Associated Press
What are these Bush Republicans afraid of? Dirty looks from the help at the country club?--PJB
The H2A and H2B have been around for quite a while and in the early years they worked well. These visa programs were broken incrementally thru time by the democrats as a way to benefit the unions. The democrats also would not allow these programs to evolve to meet our changing needs on guest workers.
So what you ended up with is the H2B that allows in only 66,000 workers that are snapped up in one day. The regulations on the H2A are 300 pages long and the large factory farms with staff lawyers can't navigate them, much less a small peach farmer in Georgia. The language protecting domestic workers is punative. Forget what the quota is, it is never reached.
Now look at tech worker and nurse visas which are more recently written at a time when the republicans had more influence over them. They are simple and user friedly. The regulations are short, one page.
When new guest worker plans are written, or the H2A is reformed, it would be important to do it with the newer H1b visa as a model.
Tancredo is not out to reform anything or make it simple. He only wants to snarl it up more, just like the democrats.
As for Tancredos method of using enforcement to down-size the illegals, it is un-enforcable. That is why he speaks of it in generalities and won't put the details down in writing.
As opposed to Tancredo's plan which is guaranteed suicide.
BTTT
Generally, most of rightfielders at FR are either poorly informed on the issue or have an agenda to mis-inform.
Thanks for the ping. Very informative thread.
How? You just got through insisting that it wouldn't deport any illegals, so that wouldn't destroy the economy. As for new arrivals, they would come in legally. If the conditions imposed for granting guest-worker status are too strict, it won't make anything worse, because the illegals would then continue to come in as they do now. Besides, those conditions can be loosened later on if needed, just as long as illegals don't qualify.
political suicide for the Republican Party
How? By carrying out the will of 75%-80% of the voting public? Yeah, that's always been the death knell for politicians.
Even if he did, that would not translate into Congrssional support for Tancredo.
Of course it would, which is the exact reason why he's not doing it, or even not arguing against it. He knows that even having it part of the public debate at all is dangerous, from his perspective, because that's the one the public would instantly flock to.
Again, you could not be more wrong. Participants of the immigration threads are generally quite well informed. If not, are so in short order.
"............... or have an agenda to mis-inform "
Yes, some do.
Absolutely right.
And you know that.....how?
By the way, Tancredo's house immigration reform caucus has 81 members, 77 republicans and 4 democrats.
The democrats probably won't vote for it, saying it's to tough, which is a joke. But it really is the only bill that has a chance. McCain-Kennedy is to liberal for the house of representatives and Tancredo's bill is to conservative for the senate. If any of the current three are going to pass, it's going to be the Kyl-Cornyn amnesty.
The fact is that most pro-illegal posters on FR would be just fine with McKennedy passing as written. How... conservative?
This thread contradicts you. The change from deportation to attrition as a means of removing illegals from the country is a major, major shift in policy for the anti-illegals. This thread points out that most here have no knowledge of this shift, or even what attrition is.
In the early days of the internet it was said that the internet would enable everyone to be well informed on issues and I can confirm that it does.
However, a phenomenon developed where-by not all took advantage of what the internet offers. Some began to seek info/websites that told them only what they want to hear. FR is such a place.
By turning to "attrition" as a means of removing illegals, Krekorian and Tancredo are saying immigration laws are un-enforcable.
What I am saying is that creating a guest worker program, piled on top of an indefinate method(attrition) of dealing with the existing illegals), is doubly un-enforcable.
Can somebody tell me why we have illegal aliens taking jobs that people feeding out of the gubmint trough should be doing?
Whatever. That train-wreck made no sense whatsoever. It's wrong on this topic and as usual it's wrong on Tancredo.
Unless you can focus on the thread topic and interject facts, do not bother me with your nonsense.
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