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Missing Able Danger 'Atta' Chart in 2002 Video
NewsMax.com ^ | August 29, 2005  | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 08/29/2005 3:53:39 AM PDT by johnny7

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To: American in Israel

Could the chart have fit in Sandy Berger's pants?


21 posted on 08/29/2005 4:48:54 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: johnny7

It figures.

Must protect the traitorous Clintons at all cost.

It boggles the mind what they're getting away with. And I, for one, have no confidence in our govt because of it.


22 posted on 08/29/2005 4:52:01 AM PDT by Bullish (Proudly and consistently hating the Clinton's since 1992)
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To: johnny7

BTTT


23 posted on 08/29/2005 4:52:08 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: johnny7

Hillary's losing her edge. Too many folks are talking and she's left far too many loose ends.


24 posted on 08/29/2005 4:57:47 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: saveliberty
If it was UCLA, I ccould readily understand!
25 posted on 08/29/2005 5:01:02 AM PDT by FOXFANVOX (Freedom is not free!)
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To: saveliberty
The program wrongly tagged Rice

No, the program worked perfectly. It was the human factor that didn't. The system merely spews out info. It's up to the humans to study and understand the info.

26 posted on 08/29/2005 5:01:17 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: FOXFANVOX

:-) So true!


27 posted on 08/29/2005 5:02:25 AM PDT by saveliberty ("The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop." - PJ O'Rourke)
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To: mtbopfuyn

:-) Fair comment - programs will only do as they are told, and will do it exactly.


28 posted on 08/29/2005 5:03:22 AM PDT by saveliberty ("The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop." - PJ O'Rourke)
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To: saveliberty; Howlin; neverdem

But, consider that the "Chinese connection" (linking officials to Chinese influence) that this data mining found was also (more importantly) establishing HILLARY CLINTON associates and campaign donors with the Chinese.

Remember, at the time of the chart and the presentations and the 9/11 planning (when the Islamic terrorists already got in-country and were attending flight training), it was STILL Clinton in office.


29 posted on 08/29/2005 5:06:28 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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To: Just mythoughts

There is no such chart. It does not exist. It was shredded as soon as it became a subject of contention.


30 posted on 08/29/2005 5:07:25 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Right, here's the problem.

Clinton's thrive on old school wild accusations campaigning. So that no matter what horrible thing that they have done, it gets turned on its head. It's just too incredible that they did half of the things that they are alleged to have done, yet it may be true that they did do at least half of them.

It won't stick.

Here's another take, and I defer to the technology experts to correctly answer this question. We know that the Chinese were/are data mining. So isn't it possible that this data mining included jobs or executables that would make the system or computer containing the information do the search and then launch the findings to China? If so, this may create an audit trail that would appear to implicate the victim and cover up the aggressor.


31 posted on 08/29/2005 5:12:15 AM PDT by saveliberty ("The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop." - PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Bullish
It bugs me to no end that Republicans are always so zealous to protect Democrats. Republicans are just as enthusiastic to cover up Crat misdeeds as are the Crats themselves. One might think that Republicans are always complicit in the Democrat crimes in the first place.
32 posted on 08/29/2005 5:12:18 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: arthurus

A sign of insanity is to repeat behavior and expect a different result. But there's good crazy and bad crazy

:-)


Openly charging some democrats as perps has backfired in the past, so other means of stopping the bad acts need to be found.


33 posted on 08/29/2005 5:15:12 AM PDT by saveliberty ("The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop." - PJ O'Rourke)
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To: saveliberty

grammar police alert

Clinton's = possessive, not plural

should have been "Clintons"

Off to the pokey. :-)


34 posted on 08/29/2005 5:16:17 AM PDT by saveliberty ("The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop." - PJ O'Rourke)
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To: evad
"The video never zooms in on the chart to the point where Atta's picture is identifiable".....

That says that there is not a sticky post over Atta's photo.

35 posted on 08/29/2005 5:24:37 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: johnny7

????? If Weldon had the chart, why didn't he give it to the Commission?

Curiouser and curiouser...


36 posted on 08/29/2005 5:27:49 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: saveliberty

It is more than the Republicans making charges and attacking Crat misdeeds. The Republicans actively resist discovery and cover up those misdeeds just as eagerly as do the Crats.


37 posted on 08/29/2005 5:29:37 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: saveliberty
"The program wrongly tagged Rice..

First, the program did not come up with Rice & Perry while data-mining on al-Qaida but on Chinagate.

Second, data-mining doesn't determine the guilty or even the suspencts, but like old fashion jawbone & gumshoe investigative techniques it comes back with name of those "at the scene". Human been would have to then sifted through that raw data and determine who had a good reason to be there and who didn't before anyone would be "tagged".

More simply, Rice & Perry may have had good reason to be associated with those in Chinagate, BUT Atta could only have had bad reasons to be associated with al-Qaeda.

If this was the reason Able-Danger was shutdown, it's transparently pretextual.

38 posted on 08/29/2005 5:35:00 AM PDT by drpix
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To: arthurus

As Rush says, it's all about power - and therefore money. Republicans are as suceptible to wanting to hold onto power as are Dems, and it all leads to corruption.


39 posted on 08/29/2005 5:41:22 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: johnny7
- "The Pentagon, the 9/11 Commission and the Senate Intelligence Committee are currently seeking evidence that the bombshell chart ever existed..."
- "In the same speech, Rep. Weldon also revealed that then-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Hugh Shelton received a briefing on the Able Danger chart in the closing weeks of the Clinton administration."

Good place to start: Clinton Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Hugh Shelton --- who didn't retire with the change of administration in January 20001, but on September 30, 2001. (source link)

40 posted on 08/29/2005 5:43:31 AM PDT by drpix
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