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Posted on 08/28/2005 8:10:23 PM PDT by NautiNurse
I am going to concentrate on news of the hurricane, and cease prolonging this argument. It isn't productive, and since we will not ever come to agreement, we are simply wasting bandwidth.
A person exposed to 100 mph winds is going to just as dead as one underwater. Many of the areas you mentioned are going to suffer from wind damage and collapsed buildings themselves.
The bottom line is that evacuations are not as simple as many in this thread think they are. Remember, Rudy didn't evacuate NY, he just calmed them down.
This is once in a century type storm. If a storm like this had ever hit New Orleans before then it wouldn't still be there. This is just like the democrats saying that defending America from highjacked plane attacks should have been the first thing that Bush should have done. We know how ludicrous that sounds when we hear it, but many are doing that same thing tonight.
Thanks very much! The feeling's mutual! :o) Will definitely keep you posted.
Tired now. Going to rest.
This is slightly off topic, but the one thing good to come out of all this hurricane coverage is that it has totally obliterated coverage of the Cindy Sheehan farce. Hahahahahahaha. This hurricane coverage will be going on for the next 2-3 weeks, to the exclusion of most everything else. If NO goes down the drain (pardon the pun), this hurricane coverage could go on for weeks. Buh bye, Cindy. Your days are numbered. Your caravan to Washington D.C. will be meaningless, subsumed by hurricane coverage. This one aspect of the all hurricane all the time on TV, is a delight. Can't think of a nicer person to have no coverage of from this point on.
Heard it here first! I turned the laptop around to my husband late Friday night, and said something along the lines of "Holy Crap."
It was extremely frustrating to watch this...almost like they couldn't believe it!
That said, from interviews I remember from other hurricanes that have threatened NO; many of the residents simply just DIDN'T believe it would ever happen. That applied to some of the elected officials, apparently.
The general public with information probably made it out... if they had the means and mode. The highly transient population of NO, the population without means and mode (which would include accurate information sources) would not make it out... or even to shelter. The self sufficient, like the cajuns on the bayous, don't really worry me. It is the vulnerable, the weak of the population. For crying out loud, your position is not unlike saying bowel and bladder control is self responsibility. Tell that to a baby or senior who don't have the ability to self control. There might be diapers and depends, but do they have means and mode to access them?
They should have tried harder to get more people out of the area...even if they only got out five busloads, it would have been something.
There's two ten car PLUS passenger trains that visit NO every day...the "City of New Orleans" (to Chicago) and the "Sunset Limited." (Jax to LA) There's 2o to 25 cars right there! However, it's not that easy, as Amtrak would have to drop off all the regular passengers, refund their money, put 'em in hotels...etc...so they could have empty trains for evac. (But if they used those 20 cars in an express shuttle service, to a location about 200 miles west of NO, it might be all they need...)
Also, if they had too, they could couple together those old streetcar/trollies they run up & down St. Charles Ave., and have a diesel pull them out of the station! The trollies use the same guage tracks as regular trains.
Not only could they save some people, they'd save the old trollies! I love those old NO street cars. Hope a few survive...
Also...off topic...does anyone outthere know what the fate of the animals at the Audobon Zoo will be? I doubt they have an evac plan for the animals. Only the gators will be able to rough this storm....
Thanks. Must be my local conditions.
Nighters--see you soon.
Yeah, you are correct and made a good analogy. However, having just gone through two acclerated physics classes this summer, I just couldn't let that little detail pass. :)
Thanks for the info! It was amazing to see completely open roads on one side and the other side jammed with cars.
God be with you.
NHC center is now saying NOLA can exect hurricane from now until 3-6pm tommorrow(he actaully said for up to 18 hours but i just stated the obvious)
You obviously don't know what you're talking about; the people left in the center of New Orleans are the poorest, least educated people. They don't even have cars to leave with.
No preparations were made to evacuate them.
Of course, the mayor was busy helicoptering HIS family out of town.
here is a car that just drove by the webcam on Bourbon St. It does not look like a cop car. (these people are nuts to be out driving around)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/patchworkpiecer/bourbonstreetcam1.jpg
The leaders of NO are of the same quality as those who led France in 1940.
NHC center is now saying NOLA can expect hurricane from now until 3-6pm tommorrow(he actaully said for up to 18 hours but i just stated the obvious)
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