Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII

Category	Wind Speed	Barometric Pressure	Storm Surge	Damage Potential
Tropical Depression	< 39 mph < 34 kts			Minimal
Tropical Storm	39 - 73 mph 34 - 63 kts			Minimal
Hurricane 1 (Weak)	74 - 95 mph 64 - 82 kts	28.94" or more 980.02 mb or more	4.0' - 5.0' 1.2 m - 1.5 m	Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2 (Moderate)	96 - 110 mph 83 - 95 kts	28.50" - 28.93" 965.12 mb - 979.68 mb	6.0' - 8.0' 1.8 m - 2.4 m	Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3 (Strong)	111 - 130 mph 96 - 112 kts	27.91" - 28.49" 945.14 mb - 964.78 mb	9.0' - 12.0' 2.7 m - 3.7 m	Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4 (Very strong)	131 - 155 mph 113 - 135 kts	27.17" - 27.90" 920.08 mb - 944.80 mb	13.0' - 18.0' 3.9 m - 5.5 m	Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5 (Devastating)	Greater than 155 mph Greater than 135 kts	Less than 27.17" Less than 920.08 mb	Greater than 18.0' Greater than 5.5m	Catastrophic building failures possible

You know you're in trouble when the natural gas mains break and the downed power lines ignite the gas *awhoom* and the howling wind blows it out, and this cycle repeats over and over again.

Oooh! I live in all electric neighborhood; no gas lines, so I didn't see that. Just as glad I didn't ...

When the wind rips street signs loose from their metal poles and they go spinning through the air like lethal frisbies.

Yup, didn't see any from my window, but stop sign was buried edge-on in a Ficus about half a block west of me. Saw it first time we tried to drive around, after.

When the flooding water causes red ants, snakes, and rodents to seek shelter in your house.

Oh, Yeah! Took me a year to get the fire ants out of my kitchen and from behind my water heater. It did teach me, thereafter, to wash my dishes and keep the kitchen clean at all times though. [Grin]

1,261 posted on 08/28/2005 10:43:31 PM PDT by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)

blood will be on his hands

Which is why he was shaking, fumbling and bumbling.

1,262 posted on 08/28/2005 10:43:31 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)

To: silentknight

Red Cross expects this to be the greatest natural disaster they have ever responded to

Red Cross expects this to be the greatest money maker they have ever responded to

1,263 posted on 08/28/2005 10:44:07 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum)

Oil is already spiked to $70/barrel.

1,264 posted on 08/28/2005 10:44:09 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Cindy Sheehan: "All You Are Saying Is Give APPEASEMENT A Chance!")

To: John Jamieson

Thanks; I see now it's the drag factor that is key.

1,265 posted on 08/28/2005 10:44:19 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)

To: SolomoninSouthDakota

The abilty to provoke destruction is a -force- question, not a -power- question.

Agreed, once started, the power (force times distance) question comes into play. But the force of my half-ton ass on the couch provides -no- power until the couch is broken. Meanwhile, I am dead weight, and (only) if enough weight, I break the couch.

1,266 posted on 08/28/2005 10:44:47 PM PDT by Cboldt

----They maybe be locally Dems, but nationally they went for Bush 57%.----

Yes.... and New Orleans went for Kerry by 80%.

1,267 posted on 08/28/2005 10:44:49 PM PDT by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)

It withstood the impact from the 747's.

It was the fuel from the planes that fueled a fire that destroyed the towers. They would have most likely stood had the stairs been encased in concrete instead of 1 1/2" of drywall.

1,268 posted on 08/28/2005 10:44:59 PM PDT by ImphClinton (Four More Years Go Bush)

I just was watching the news. The levi manager was saying that they expect flooding. Thw storm surge is estimated to be 20' tall, with storm WAVES of 10 feet on top of that.

The TALLEST levi's are 18 feet tall.

Just heard on Art Bell that bouys out in the Gulf have recorded 60' waves.

Prayers up.

1,269 posted on 08/28/2005 10:45:02 PM PDT by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))

I wondered the same thing -- why go east -- made no sense to me.

1,270 posted on 08/28/2005 10:45:03 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)

Sheriff Harry Lee


Harry Lee was born in the back room of a Chinese laundry in downtown New Orleans. He lived in a single room with his mother, father, two older sisters, two younger sisters and a younger brother. The Lee family got out of the laundry business during World War II and opened a restaurant and bar. Typical of Chinese families, Harry's father required all the children to work and while attending grammar school, he was required to take a bus and work after school and all day Saturdays and Sundays. This tradition of hard work is the basis for Harry Lee's success. While in grade school, he was elected president of his class and president of the student body. In high school, he was the only person in the forty-year-history of Francis T. Nicholls to serve both as Senior Class President and Student Body President. When he graduates from high school, he received the American Legion Award as the outstanding male graduate. Harry Lee received a Bachelor of Science degree in Geology from Louisiana State University. He was inducted into the Geology & Mining Society, an honor society for geology students, lettered in tennis and was designated an outstanding ROTC Cadet. After receiving his degree from LSU, Harry entered the Air Force and, as a Junior Officer in the Strategic Air Command was rated in the top two percent of Junior Officers in the entire Air Force. Returning home from the service, Harry's family opened the famous House of Lee Restaurant in the year 1959. Because of his leadership abilities, Harry was elected president of the New Orleans Chapter of the Louisiana Restaurant Association in 1964. His fellow restaurateurs credit his leadership for the peaceful integration of restaurants in New Orleans after the enactment of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. When his younger brother finished college, Harry told his father he would like to obtain a law degree. His father said, as long as he did his share of the work, what he did on his own time was "ok" with him. Working 72 hours a week managing the family restaurant, Harry received a Law degree, was elected President of the Loyola Student Bar Association and was inducted into the Blue Key National Honor Fraternity. After just a few years of law practice, Harry was the first United States Magistrate to be sworn in for the Eastern District of Louisiana in 1971. His leadership abilities were again recognized and he was elected President of the National Council of United States Magistrates in 1973. When Harry Lee visited the People's Republic of China as a member of the Boggs/Ford Delegation in 1972, it was determined he was the first American of Chinese Ancestry to be officially invited to the people's Republic of China since 1959. Harry Lee recognizing the need for a strong military service, joined the National Guard in 1961 as a 1Lt and retired in 1987 as the Assistant Adjutant General for Air with the rank of Brigadier General (La). Harry Lee presently serves as the Commander of the Louisiana State Guard with the rank of Major General (La). After resigning from the office of United States Magistrate, Harry was appointed as Parish Attorney for the Parish of Jefferson, State of Louisiana, and in 1979 was elected Sheriff of Jefferson Parish. Harry was re-elected in 1983, 1987, 1991, 1995, and again in 1999. Special Awards: April 9, 1983 - Baltimore, MD 1983 RECIPIENT OF AMVETS SILVER HELMET AMERICANISM AWARD "Americanism Award presented to Mr. Harry Lee, Sheriff, Parish of Jefferson, Louisiana, in grateful; recognition of unselfish promotion of patriotic interest, activities and values, thus providing an inspiring example of the kind of American Citizenship that made this nation great." July 1, 1998 - RECIPIENT OF THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF COMMUNITY AND JUSTICE FIRST ANNUAL FOUNDER'S AWARD "First Annual Founder's Award presented to Sheriff Harry Lee for his dedicated support of "Anytown U.S.A.", a unique summer institute program that offers multi-cultural human relations training to high-school students, in the greater New Orleans area, who represent diverse racial, religious, ethnic and economic backgrounds." September 27, 1998 - Atlanta, Georgia RECIPIENT OF AWARD FROM THE FOUNDATION FOR IMPROVEMENT OF JUSTICE "Award presented to Sheriff Harry Lee for his superior management of the Sheriff's Office. His Department is known nationally for providing the five-minute response time for calls, for over 90% solution of murders and for an overall reduction in crime during his 18 years." May 20, 2000 - West Haven, Connecticut RECIPIENT OF HONORARY DEGREE OF DOCTOR OF LAWS BY THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAVEN "Degree conferred to Sheriff Harry Lee in recognition of his distinguished career in public service." January 27, 2001 - Winnfield, Louisiana INDUCTED INTO THE LOUISIANA POLITICAL HALL OF FAME

1,271 posted on 08/28/2005 10:45:17 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)

To: pax_et_bonum

You want me to cover your HAT thread so you can stay on storm watch?

1,272 posted on 08/28/2005 10:45:18 PM PDT by Flyer (Home from Crawford (Houston))

Dauphin Island is a beautiful place. My hubby's band once played for the Ala. Road Builder's Convention at the Grand Isle Hotel there. It was a fun evening and even the concert pianist ended up playing "Rocky Top" with the Bluegrass band, and the road builders covered their formal dress with Lower Forty Grass T-shirts. Those were good times, long ago.

1,273 posted on 08/28/2005 10:45:35 PM PDT by WVNan

Speaking as a Floridian, wouldn't it ultimately be my fault alone if I didn't have the sense to plan my own procedures deal with what are well-known "facts of life" down here, such as fire ants, alligators, water moccasins, exotic imported pests, deer flies, chiggers, wasps, termites, eastern diamondbacks, rabid raccoons, visiting liberal-voting crabby New York city folk, falling coconuts, plumetting pine limbs, 25 lb palm boots crashing down, spring breakers, rip tides, red tide, sting rays, sharks, dry season forest fires, heavy wet season flooding, Janet Reno, sunburn, intense summer heat, humidity, incredible lightning, fishy seagull poop, and things like hurricane season storm surges, winds, and flying debris?

As you can tell, I'm not a realtor.

1,274 posted on 08/28/2005 10:45:42 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)

Funny that you pop up after nine months to defend the mayor.

Do you think that the mayor of New Orleans has sleeper agents on FreeRepublic just for a situation like this? Hurricane Katrina is to blame, not any elected official.

If the mayor had shut off any contact to the outside to world and left the residents of New Orleans totally reliant on him to make decisions then you might have a points.

Again, self responsibility is a conservative position. Reliance on the government for guidance is a liberal one.

1,275 posted on 08/28/2005 10:45:51 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta

To: Flux Capacitor

Louisiana is still a blue state.

No, Louisiana is pretty evenly split.

1,276 posted on 08/28/2005 10:46:00 PM PDT by PAR35

If NO is a disaster, it will be another example of building a city in the wrong place. Think of Galveston.

On another matter, I think about the refineries in the area. Obviously those who built them never expected such an event. MORE blame to those who have prevented more refineries form being built in the USA. Wait till they are paying $6 a gallon. They will blame Bush, of course!

1,277 posted on 08/28/2005 10:46:05 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)

People have already started to loot according to Channel 2. Can you believe that with a hurricane bearing down, they start looting?

1,278 posted on 08/28/2005 10:46:07 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)

I'm praying as hard as I can, as I watch FNC and try to keep up with this thread. :^)

Maybe we should take a 1 minute prayer break and all pray together.

1,279 posted on 08/28/2005 10:46:16 PM PDT by nopardons

To: Hillarys Gate Cult

You are right and their donations are done often w/o a lot of fanfare.

I must go to bed --been on this hurricane thread all day. 'Nite all.

A prayer for the folks in the southern US. What they are facing is mind boggling.

1,280 posted on 08/28/2005 10:46:39 PM PDT by Tarheel ( Murphy's law #21--Internet flame wars are started by two cats who did not like their supper.)

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