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Strategizing a Christian Coup d'Etat
LA Times ^ | August 28, 2005 | Jenny Jarvie

Posted on 08/28/2005 2:02:45 PM PDT by Crackingham

It began, as many road trips do, with a stop at Wal-Mart to buy a portable DVD player. But Mario DiMartino was planning more than a weekend getaway. He, his wife and three children were embarking on a pilgrimage to South Carolina.

"I want to migrate and claim the gold of the Lord," said the 38-year-old oil company executive from Pennsylvania. "I want to replicate the statutes and the mores and the scriptures that the God of the Old Testament espoused to the world."

DiMartino, who drove here recently to look for a new home, is a member of Christian Exodus, a movement of politically active believers who hope to establish a government based upon Christian principles.

At a time when evangelicals are exerting influence on the national political stage — having helped secure President Bush's reelection — Christian Exodus believes that people of faith have failed to assert their moral agenda: Abortion is legal. School prayer is banned. There are limits on public displays of the Ten Commandments. Gays and lesbians can marry in Massachusetts. Christian Exodus activists plan to take control of sheriff's offices, city councils and school boards. Eventually, they say, they will control South Carolina. They will pass godly legislation, defying Supreme Court rulings on the separation of church and state.

"We're going to force a constitutional crisis," said Cory Burnell, 29, an investment advisor who founded the group in November 2003.

"If necessary," he said, "we will secede from the union."

Burnell has not moved to South Carolina himself — he promised his wife that they would stay in Valley Springs, Calif., until the end of next year — but believes that his 950 supporters will rally to the cause. Five families have moved so far.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: South Carolina
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1 posted on 08/28/2005 2:02:48 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

Leave it to the Los Angeles Times to wet their pants over an issue like this. I sure don't remember them whining over socialist/communist influences on the nation. In fact, I've seen them hawk those ideas for decades. The LAT chose it's side a long time ago. That's why I still refer to it as Pravda on the Pacific. I will until it quits echoing Pravda's favorite oldies from the Cold War.


2 posted on 08/28/2005 2:08:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Crackingham
Then they can teach CS/ID if they want. Do you think this will one of the lessons?


A Pawnee Emergence Myth:
Mother Corn Leads the First People to the Surface of the Earth

(From the ritual account given by the Pawnee Indian,
Four Rings, to Dr. Melvin Gilmore.)


Before the World was we were all within the Earth.

Mother Corn caused movement. She gave life.

Life being given we moved towards the surface:

We shall stand erect as men!

The being is become human! He is a person!

To personal form is added strength:

Form and intelligence united, we are ready to come forth

But Mother Corn warns us that the Earth is still in flood.

Now Mother Corn proclaims that the flood is gone, and the Earth--now green.

Mother Corn commands that the people ascend to the surface.

Mother Corn has gathered them together, they move half way to the surface;

Mother Corn leads them near to the surface of the Earth;

Mother Corn brings them to the surface. The first light appears!

Mother Corn leads them forth. They have emerged to the waist.

They step forth to the surface of the Earth.

Now all have come forth; and Mother Corn leads them from the East towards the West.

Mother Corn leads them to the place of their habitation. . . .

All is completed All is perfect!


H.B. Alexander, The World's Rim


3 posted on 08/28/2005 2:11:49 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Is this a good tagline?)
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To: DoughtyOne
"I want to replicate the statutes and the mores and the scriptures that the God of the Old Testament espoused to the world."

Sadly these people don't seem to have any understanding of what true Christianity is all about.

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? Gal 3:1-3

4 posted on 08/28/2005 2:16:45 PM PDT by The Lumster (The USA - where the innocent have nothing to fear!)
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To: Crackingham
Burnell has not moved to South Carolina himself — he promised his wife that they would stay in Valley Springs, Calif., until the end of next year

Hmmm...This fellow may see himself as another Moses reclaiming the promised land, but I don't recall this 'do as I say not do as I do' approach in the old testament.

5 posted on 08/28/2005 2:24:05 PM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: The Lumster

Last time I checked, this citizen was free to practice any religion he liked. He may be the ultimate yahoo, but having the LA Times wax rhapsodic on the topic makes me want to puke. If you wish to judge him, be my guest, first stone and all...


6 posted on 08/28/2005 2:34:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: upchuck

These-yoyos-again ping!


7 posted on 08/28/2005 2:41:02 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Even Tom Cruise would recommend that Cindy Sheehan take a Paxil." --PBRSTREETGANG)
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To: Crackingham

Looks like he is a pro-feminist liberal who lets his wife run the household and call the shots.


8 posted on 08/28/2005 3:01:58 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: DoughtyOne
Last time I checked, this citizen was free to practice any religion he liked.

Certainly he is free to practice his religion. I never said he wasn't. I just object to people who desire to live under the law of Moses referring to themselves as Christians. They are not Christians, they are religionists.

Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.Gal 5:4

9 posted on 08/28/2005 3:09:42 PM PDT by The Lumster (The USA - where the innocent have nothing to fear!)
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To: Crackingham

Jenny, your Pulitzer is in the mail ... NOT.


10 posted on 08/28/2005 3:11:57 PM PDT by sono
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To: Slings and Arrows; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; ...
Thanks for the ping, S&A.


South Carolina Ping

Add me to the ping list. Remove me from the ping list.

12 posted on 08/28/2005 3:18:49 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Slings and Arrows; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; ...
Thanks for the ping, S&A.


South Carolina Ping

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13 posted on 08/28/2005 3:19:30 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: upchuck; John Robinson
Sorry again for the double post. Second time that's happened to me today. And I've noticed a bunch of double and triple posts by other FReepers.

I reckon FR is having some trouble.

14 posted on 08/28/2005 3:22:07 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Crackingham

...There are restrictions on displaying the Ten Commandments, Gays can marry each other...."


Black is Wednesday, white is up, etc, etc.


15 posted on 08/28/2005 3:22:51 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Losertarians are dead to me.)
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To: Crackingham
"If necessary," he said, "we will secede from the union."

My history may be a bit hazy but didn't South Carolina try this once before?

16 posted on 08/28/2005 3:27:31 PM PDT by Drew68
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After scrutinizing electoral records, demographic trends and property prices, Christian Exodus members identified two upstate South Carolina counties — they will not officially say which ones — as prime for a conservative takeover.

Why keep it a secret? Don't they want like-minded folks to move there? Or are they afraid that a busload of hairy-armpitted lesbian vegans from Berkeley will beat them to their promised land.

17 posted on 08/28/2005 3:31:07 PM PDT by Drew68
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Why keep it a secret? Don't they want like-minded folks to move there?

After reading the whole article it appears that they don't want the locals to know they are coming. They might not be so welcomed.

18 posted on 08/28/2005 3:34:06 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Crackingham
"We're going to force a constitutional crisis," said Cory Burnell, 29, an investment advisor who founded the group in November 2003.

"If necessary," he said, "we will secede from the union."

Burnell has not moved to South Carolina himself

LOL, that's hilarious! Two threats, followed by, "... but not right now."

Question for you Cory: How do 950 people, "secede from the union?"

Speaking as someone who is fairly new myself, IMHO, South Carolina will welcome y'all. The people here are pretty tolerant. I'd suggest, however, that y'all behave yourselves. People 'round here don't much take to radical ideas. You could find yourselves in a mess of trouble.

19 posted on 08/28/2005 3:34:23 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: The Lumster

I don't blame you for having an opinion on this. We probably share some of the same beliefs. Once again, it disgusts me to have the LA Times sit in judgement on the subject of religion or patriotism or our political system. They are as tainted as it gets.


20 posted on 08/28/2005 4:05:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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