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Adam, Eve and T. Rex
LA Times ^ | 8/27/05 | Ashley Powers

Posted on 08/27/2005 9:28:07 PM PDT by Crackingham

Dinny the roadside dinosaur has found religion. The 45-foot-high concrete apatosaurus has towered over Interstate 10 near Palm Springs for nearly three decades as a kitschy prehistoric pit stop for tourists. Now he is the star of a renovated attraction that disputes the fact that dinosaurs died off millions of years before humans first walked the planet.

Dinny's new owners, pointing to the Book of Genesis, contend that most dinosaurs arrived on Earth the same day as Adam and Eve, some 6,000 years ago, and later marched two by two onto Noah's Ark. The gift shop at the attraction, called the Cabazon Dinosaurs, sells toy dinosaurs whose labels warn, "Don't swallow it! The fossil record does not support evolution."

The Cabazon Dinosaurs join at least half a dozen other roadside attractions nationwide that use the giant reptiles' popularity in seeking to win converts to creationism. And more are on the way.

"We're putting evolutionists on notice: We're taking the dinosaurs back," said Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis, a Christian group building a $25-million creationist museum in Petersburg, Ky., that's already overrun with model sauropods and velociraptors.

"They're used to teach people that there's no God, and they're used to brainwash people," he said. "Evolutionists get very upset when we use dinosaurs. That's their star."

The nation's top paleontologists find the creation theory preposterous and say children are being misled by dinosaur exhibits that take the Jurassic out of "Jurassic Park."

"Dinosaurs lived in the Garden of Eden, and Noah's Ark? Give me a break," said Kevin Padian, curator at the University of California Museum of Paleontology in Berkeley and president of National Center for Science Education, an Oakland group that supports teaching evolution. "For them, 'The Flintstones' is a documentary."

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To: BikerNYC; BraveMan

There is a large misconception of "freewill". While it's true that we make choices, it is the Lord who determines the results. Those who suggest otehrwise would seek to limit God's utter sovereignty over His creation. I can will myself to be rich, I can will myself to be taller, I can will myself to have a nicer car. Those things that I will may or may not play out the way I want them to,

Pro 16:9 The heart of man plans his way, but the LORD establishes his steps.

But I take comfort in the LORD'S providencial care of me,

Rom 8:28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.

So, regarding Free Will and heaven:

To the regenerate Christian, there is one driving force - to serve God and to live by His precepts and Laws. Our goal is heaven, where we can finally be made perfect in His sight, and spend our days worshipping Him in all His glory and majesty. We are made holy and righteous, we will have no other "will".

This whole notion of "free will" is man-made, as the unsaved doens't want anything to do with God or His law. "Free will" is a way that man attempts to excuse away fleshly desires, and seeks to say that God is not sovereign over their lives. Our inherent nature is sin, naturally our will is set against doing what He commands of us. This notion of "free will" is how many assuage their own guilt, rahter than repenting before the Lord and committing their lives to Him.

>>Do people make mistakes in heaven?<<

No. Silly to the point of being blasphemous. Heaven is perfection.


241 posted on 08/29/2005 4:29:13 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (Pap always said, "Never trust a Hogwallop!")
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To: WildTurkey

If you simply accept everything said on this board as Gospel you're in for some woe . . .

A child is safe in the arms of God until they are old enough to understand the consequences of sin and how to be saved. No one is held accountable for something they cannot grasp and understand. Matthew chapter 18 (specifically verse 10) spells this out.

Those who have knowledge of the law are judged by the law. Those who do not have knowledge of the law are judged by the law written on their hearts, their consciences bearing witness. Romans 2:12-16


242 posted on 08/29/2005 4:59:35 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: BraveMan
If you simply accept everything said on this board as Gospel you're in for some woe . . .

(taking your adice)

A child is safe in the arms of God until they are old enough to understand the consequences of sin and how to be saved. No one is held accountable for something they cannot grasp and understand. Matthew chapter 18 (specifically verse 10) spells this out.

Those who have knowledge of the law are judged by the law. Those who do not have knowledge of the law are judged by the law written on their hearts, their consciences bearing witness. Romans 2:12-16

243 posted on 08/29/2005 5:08:27 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: js1138; BraveMan
But do you expect to have free will in heaven?

I expect to have free will in Heaven and I expect I will choose to love the Lord and if I exercise that free will not to choose to love the Lord, I expect I will be cast out like the fallen angels.

Do you suspect that you are enslaved to your genes or do you exercise free will?

244 posted on 08/29/2005 5:16:46 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: BraveMan
A child is safe in the arms of God until they are old enough to understand the consequences of sin and how to be saved.

Then being Baptized as a baby is a waste?

245 posted on 08/29/2005 5:20:50 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey

Yes.


246 posted on 08/29/2005 5:21:56 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: WildTurkey

As is Baptism for the dead . . .


247 posted on 08/29/2005 5:22:46 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: jwalsh07
I expect to have free will in Heaven and I expect I will choose to love the Lord and if I exercise that free will not to choose to love the Lord, I expect I will be cast out like the fallen angels.

Boy you sure shot full of holes the old explanation about free will and the existence of evil.

248 posted on 08/29/2005 5:23:55 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
While it's true that we make choices, it is the Lord who determines the results. Those who suggest otehrwise would seek to limit God's utter sovereignty over His creation. I can will myself to be rich, I can will myself to be taller, I can will myself to have a nicer car.

So, when someone comes to choose to believe that Christ is his Savior, it is really God who is determining that belief? Can we choose to think about or do anything that God does not want us to think or do?

Our inherent nature is sin, naturally our will is set against doing what He commands of us.

So, we do have a will? And we can act in ways that go against what god desires of us? Either we have free will and we can think and act in ways that God does not desire, or we don't and all of the results of our thoughts and actions are what god desires and ordains.
249 posted on 08/29/2005 5:30:45 PM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: RaceBannon
I've been reading your posts for years now. Thus far, everything you think you know is wrong.
250 posted on 08/29/2005 5:34:34 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: NCLaw441

I'm stealing that.


251 posted on 08/29/2005 5:36:07 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: BikerNYC
and all of the results of our thoughts and actions are what god desires and ordains.

Either that or God goofed when he designed his master plan ...

252 posted on 08/29/2005 5:43:20 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Texas Eagle

You said: I'm stealing that.

I'm honored that you'd be willing to pass it off as your own.


253 posted on 08/29/2005 5:44:00 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441
I already posted it to my profile page.

Giving you full credit of course. I know there's something about not stealing in The Ten Commandments somewhere.

But I don't think there's anything about joshing around.

254 posted on 08/29/2005 5:47:41 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Texas Eagle

You truly honor me. I thank you. I was kind of wondering whether anyone had read what I said. It was something I felt I needed to say, whether it was read or not.

Full disclosure: I am a lawyer, for what it is worth.


255 posted on 08/29/2005 5:50:21 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441

Oh, great. How much is this going to cost me?


256 posted on 08/29/2005 5:51:10 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Texas Eagle

How much you got? I also teach my Sunday School class, so let's call it a late Sunday School lesson.
Best to you.


257 posted on 08/29/2005 5:55:10 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441
Whew. Thank you.

God bless.

258 posted on 08/29/2005 5:56:41 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: BraveMan
A child is safe in the arms of God until they are old enough to understand the consequences of sin and how to be saved.

I am watching the DHC about a 'mermaid' baby. Why would God do that to a baby that you claim is 'safe in the arms...'.

259 posted on 08/29/2005 6:03:38 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey

Why don't you ask Him?

If it's references you're looking for I'd recommend the book of Job. "The Problem of Pain" and "A Grief Observed" by C. S. Lewis also.


260 posted on 08/29/2005 6:12:46 PM PDT by BraveMan
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